Gibson SG Zoot

[bpmorton777]

I dont think those pickups are wax potted. SQQUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLL :sad1:


Brian

 

[NLD09]

I really like the red/grey one.

 

[hannaugh]

To me, they look like something either The Brady Bunch or The Partridge Family would have hanging on the wall in their rumpus rooms with some bean bag chairs and a couple of lava lamps.

 

[cmalidore]

I actually don't mind the look of this (the first two in particular) - even if it does look like an acid trip with strings.... Mind you I wouldn't be getting one, for that price, I'd expect a solid wood, but whatever works.  As long as somebody out there likes it enough to play it, that's what matters.

 

[smavridis]

I actually don't mind the look of this (the first two in particular) - even if it does look like an acid trip with strings.... Mind you I wouldn't be getting one, for that price, I'd expect a solid wood, but whatever works.  As long as somebody out there likes it enough to play it, that's what matters.

do you think gibson cares about what ANYONE likes?

 

[Superlizard]

do you think gibson cares about what ANYONE likes?

Heheheheh...

When they put out sh!te like this, it's rather obvious they don't.

 

[cmalidore]

do you think gibson cares about what ANYONE likes?

Haha not even remotely, but I wasn't talking for them

Though in the end it does all come down to business.  If nobody buys it, it won't be out there that long.  So they'll care to that extent.

 

[smavridis]

do you think gibson cares about what ANYONE likes?

Haha not even remotely, but I wasn't talking for them

Though in the end it does all come down to business.  If nobody buys it, it won't be out there that long.  So they'll care to that extent.

ya and then in 30 years everyone is going to want these. have you heard of the moderne?

 

[cmalidore]

ya and then in 30 years everyone is going to want these. have you heard of the moderne?

Which'll be really helpful for them in 30 years I guess.  That's a lot of pre-planning on their part.... not a business plan I'd be shooting for... but hey maybe that's why I'm a broke illustrator haha.

 

[MUYFUE]

pups are Q tuners!
HAHA I"m really bored....

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Parker and Steinberger both experimented with alternative materials in an attempt to be at the top of it when that became the standard.  Even Fender's aluminum bodies were an attempt at an alternative material, though not cheaper.  It seems that when building most things with wood besides houses and guitars, a laminate is a logical choice.  The strength of which is usally left to how it is laminated and what it is laminated with, as well as if there are any gaps in the layers of the laminate.  Technically Ibanez necks, Gecko necks, and Alembics are laminates.  Any integrity issues with those?  I prefer a 2 piece body more than a 1 piece for this reason.  We all know that some Squiers and Foreign-made Fenders are plywood.  Even with a Sunburst finish it's hard to tell.  It isn't until the pickguard or control plate is removed, revealing the construction, that most peoples' opinion of the sound goes down.  There's good laminates and bad laminates.  Given that these SGs have what appears to be carved type top, revealed by the different colors dyed on the different layers, because the carving is symetrical, it leads me to believe that these are good, even laminate jobs with no gaps.  And yes, I think Gibson is easing us into a non-solid wood made guitar.  It makes sense.  Aren't oil companies the biggest researchers of alternative fuels?  Why not be part of the new technology that puts your old technology out of business?  Any business model includes growth.  Sure it's the LP Standards, Customs, and Classics that pay the bills at Gibson, but Ford brought you the Mustang, F-250, Galaxy, etc. etc.  They also brought you the Pinto and Festiva.  Maybe this is Gibson's Ford Festiva. 

 

[chrisg]

Parker and Steinberger both experimented with alternative materials in an attempt to be at the top of it when that became the standard.  Even Fender's aluminum bodies were an attempt at an alternative material, though not cheaper.  It seems that when building most things with wood besides houses and guitars, a laminate is a logical choice.  The strength of which is usally left to how it is laminated and what it is laminated with, as well as if there are any gaps in the layers of the laminate.  Technically Ibanez necks, Gecko necks, and Alembics are laminates.  Any integrity issues with those?  I prefer a 2 piece body more than a 1 piece for this reason.  We all know that some Squiers and Foreign-made Fenders are plywood.  Even with a Sunburst finish it's hard to tell.  It isn't until the pickguard or control plate is removed, revealing the construction, that most peoples' opinion of the sound goes down.  There's good laminates and bad laminates.  Given that these SGs have what appears to be carved type top, revealed by the different colors dyed on the different layers, because the carving is symetrical, it leads me to believe that these are good, even laminate jobs with no gaps.  And yes, I think Gibson is easing us into a non-solid wood made guitar.  It makes sense.  Aren't oil companies the biggest researchers of alternative fuels?  Why not be part of the new technology that puts your old technology out of business?  Any business model includes growth.  Sure it's the LP Standards, Customs, and Classics that pay the bills at Gibson, but Ford brought you the Mustang, F-250, Galaxy, etc. etc.  They also brought you the Pinto and Festiva.  Maybe this is Gibson's Ford Festiva. 

+1 on this.  I notice Martin are using laminate necks on some of their cheaper acoustics.  If this enables offcuts and previously unusable bits of quality timber to be utilised, then who am I to argue.  As others have said (and as has been the case since the first guitar was made) the quality of the construction will determine whether its a good instrument or not.  :glasses9:

 

[dbw]

I do not approve of the Zoot Suit SG.  First of all I agree with Watershed that this is just marketing BS about plywood...  secondly the color scheme is inexcusable.

 

[DangerousR6]

The layered colored woods like that are called "frost wood", they are used alot for knife scales...I have one just like this one.... :laughing7:

 

[NLD09]

Parker and Steinberger both experimented with alternative materials in an attempt to be at the top of it when that became the standard.  Even Fender's aluminum bodies were an attempt at an alternative material, though not cheaper.  It seems that when building most things with wood besides houses and guitars, a laminate is a logical choice.  The strength of which is usally left to how it is laminated and what it is laminated with, as well as if there are any gaps in the layers of the laminate.  Technically Ibanez necks, Gecko necks, and Alembics are laminates.  Any integrity issues with those?  I prefer a 2 piece body more than a 1 piece for this reason.  We all know that some Squiers and Foreign-made Fenders are plywood.  Even with a Sunburst finish it's hard to tell.  It isn't until the pickguard or control plate is removed, revealing the construction, that most peoples' opinion of the sound goes down.  There's good laminates and bad laminates.  Given that these SGs have what appears to be carved type top, revealed by the different colors dyed on the different layers, because the carving is symetrical, it leads me to believe that these are good, even laminate jobs with no gaps.  And yes, I think Gibson is easing us into a non-solid wood made guitar.  It makes sense.  Aren't oil companies the biggest researchers of alternative fuels?  Why not be part of the new technology that puts your old technology out of business?  Any business model includes growth.  Sure it's the LP Standards, Customs, and Classics that pay the bills at Gibson, but Ford brought you the Mustang, F-250, Galaxy, etc. etc.  They also brought you the Pinto and Festiva.  Maybe this is Gibson's Ford Festiva. 

+1 on this.  I notice Martin are using laminate necks on some of their cheaper acoustics.  If this enables offcuts and previously unusable bits of quality timber to be utilised, then who am I to argue.  As others have said (and as has been the case since the first guitar was made) the quality of the construction will determine whether its a good instrument or not.   :glasses9:

That's how my martin is made. Haven't found a guitar below 3k that sounds better IMO.

 

[hannaugh]

Anyone else see a resemblance?

 

[nathan a]

I am really weary of the sonic effects of a guitar without ANY solid woods, but I do actually like the "black + natural" design. I might actually play that.... which is way more than I can say about anything else I've seen Gibson put out in recent years!

 

[jerryjg]

if any one of you were to be given one of these, you'd all be raving about how great it is.

 

[JaySwear]

if any one of you were to be given one of these, you'd all be raving about how great it is.

if i get ANY guitar free i'll gladly tell you how great it is  :icon_biggrin:  i'm sure these don't sound bad, but i don't think i'd buy one. new anyway.

and they definitely do look like fruit stripe! haha never thought of that

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

The polar opposite of this is Rickenbacker.  They catch hell all the time for not doing anything different.  Damned if you do, damned if you don't.  Ernie Ball Music Man seems to be doing it right, offering new designs, electronics, and features that are modern, useable and not the same old same old.