harryprayiv
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I am in the beginning of an insanely tough guitar build (a semi-hollow 28.225- 25.5” multiscale 7 string telecaster) with flamed maple top on mahogany using Warmoth’s Super 7 Baritone Neck (without frets so I can cut my own in that weird multiscale pattern) and it is a HUGE headache for me to model the guitar and get the neck pocket perfect the first time because Warmoth doesn’t have CAD models of this part (or any bodies or necks they offer for that matter).
inside
cavity and neck joint
I have approximated the neck fairly well in Fusion 360 but I actually am going to have to cut dummy bodies in my CNC mill just to make sure I am not off in my measurements. And forget about using my CNC machine to cut the fret slots (which I had originally planned to do) because Warmoth only offers one 9-12 inch compound radius on the Super 7 and it would take 20 years for me to figure out how to put the neck on the CNC bad and have EVERYTHING line up perfectly...which has EVERYTHING to do with not having a CNC model of it since I can’t make a work-holding cavity that I could put the neck in on the CNC bed. If I had had the option, I would have bought the neck with a flat radius and without a nut slot (and also without a tilt-back headstock) but since they intentionally limited the Super 7’s options, I have to reinvent the wheel as a luthier.
You can bet that once I get this neck scanned, I will be sharing it here.
It occurs to me that Warmoth should offer SUPER accurate models of each of their products to people since they are expecting us to FINISH these guitars after they make them. Additionally, it’s absurd that they can’t even tell you the first thing about the measurements of the necks, so you can’t even pre-emptively model the neck in CAD before you get it. For example, I had to buy a super long digital ruler to learn that the Super 7 Neck is APPROXIMATELY 21.825” long from nut to fingerboard end and I am seriously considering having my neck 3D scanned by a special local company so I can make sure my CAD representation of the neck is PERFECT.
Would it be possible for the community to band together and get all of Warmoth’s products 3D scanned or at least have proper GCode that we can reverse engineer? I get that it is about protecting intellectual property to some extent but I need to know these measurements to make a decent body for this admittedly excellent neck. It seems like a no-brainer to ask for as a customer in the modern age of =guitar building. If these measurements didn’t matter, I wouldn’t care but they REALLY, REALLY do. Next guitar I build, I am not going through Warmoth for the neck because of how much of a headache this has been even though I love their necks and bodies. It would have been easier and probably sonically superior to just make the whole thing neck through and leave Warmoth out of the equation if they can’t even tell me a basic measurement.
inside
cavity and neck joint
I have approximated the neck fairly well in Fusion 360 but I actually am going to have to cut dummy bodies in my CNC mill just to make sure I am not off in my measurements. And forget about using my CNC machine to cut the fret slots (which I had originally planned to do) because Warmoth only offers one 9-12 inch compound radius on the Super 7 and it would take 20 years for me to figure out how to put the neck on the CNC bad and have EVERYTHING line up perfectly...which has EVERYTHING to do with not having a CNC model of it since I can’t make a work-holding cavity that I could put the neck in on the CNC bed. If I had had the option, I would have bought the neck with a flat radius and without a nut slot (and also without a tilt-back headstock) but since they intentionally limited the Super 7’s options, I have to reinvent the wheel as a luthier.
You can bet that once I get this neck scanned, I will be sharing it here.
It occurs to me that Warmoth should offer SUPER accurate models of each of their products to people since they are expecting us to FINISH these guitars after they make them. Additionally, it’s absurd that they can’t even tell you the first thing about the measurements of the necks, so you can’t even pre-emptively model the neck in CAD before you get it. For example, I had to buy a super long digital ruler to learn that the Super 7 Neck is APPROXIMATELY 21.825” long from nut to fingerboard end and I am seriously considering having my neck 3D scanned by a special local company so I can make sure my CAD representation of the neck is PERFECT.
Would it be possible for the community to band together and get all of Warmoth’s products 3D scanned or at least have proper GCode that we can reverse engineer? I get that it is about protecting intellectual property to some extent but I need to know these measurements to make a decent body for this admittedly excellent neck. It seems like a no-brainer to ask for as a customer in the modern age of =guitar building. If these measurements didn’t matter, I wouldn’t care but they REALLY, REALLY do. Next guitar I build, I am not going through Warmoth for the neck because of how much of a headache this has been even though I love their necks and bodies. It would have been easier and probably sonically superior to just make the whole thing neck through and leave Warmoth out of the equation if they can’t even tell me a basic measurement.