Anyone else experience this?

[Torment Leaves Scars]

Well, he said he wanted to build something nice and wanted some advice. So, I figured I'd pony up for the guy. If he'd have asked how to cheap out, I would have offered different advice.

It's not a contest. I'm just here to learn and grow as well as pass along what I know.

Sorry, I didn't realize you thought we were in a contest.  :icon_scratch:

 

[swarfrat]

While we all want one of everything, it is important to have enough discipline to maintain focus on each instrument, so that you end up with a collection of instruments which have different strengths, rather than a dozen iterations of 'the perfect guitar'

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

While we all want one of everything, it is important to have enough discipline to maintain focus on each instrument, so that you end up with a collection of instruments which have different strengths, rather than a dozen iterations of 'the perfect guitar'

That's basically what's gonna happen...you'll have 12 "perfect guitars."  :icon_thumright:

 

[Updown]

@UPDOWN the Firebird X's case is designed to survive a fall from a six story building, how many stories can your Cocobolo Emubird's case fall from and still survive?  :icon_scratch:

Thats because people will get so bloody annoyed at the heap of crap they call a guitar. That they,
will toss it out of a sixth story window  :icon_biggrin:

I know someone that has got the Firebird X
Can you believe that he is on his second one in a matter of weeks, as the 1st was crap.
As for the action on both these, they we're 8mm at the 23rd fret ..... they are all set at a high action.
(Have a look next time you see one in the shops)
He's got his down to about 3mm now.
Can't use it WITHOUT Batteries, least the DarkFire I had you could.
OH and I taught my Emubird to fly  :cool01:  So it can have a soft landing  :icon_biggrin:

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

@UPDOWN the Firebird X's case is designed to survive a fall from a six story building, how many stories can your Cocobolo Emubird's case fall from and still survive?  :icon_scratch:

Thats because people will get so bloody annoyed at the heap of crap they call a guitar. That they,
will toss it out of a sixth story window  :icon_biggrin:

I know someone that has got the Firebird X
Can you believe that he is on his second one in a matter of weeks, as the 1st was crap.
As for the action on both these, they we're 8mm at the 23rd fret ..... they are all set at a high action.
(Have a look next time you see one in the shops)
He's got his down to about 3mm now.
Can't use it WITHOUT Batteries, least the DarkFire I had you could.
OH and I taught my Emubird to fly  :cool01:  So it can have a soft landing  :icon_biggrin:

I'll try my hardest to refrain from speaking my feelings on Gibson.  Let's just say you couldn't pay me to buy a modernGibson...ANY modern Gibson. 

...And yes, I realize I own an Epiphone.  Also realize I was not the purchaser, it was a 25th birthday gift from my very loving wife who just happened to not know any better.  :doh:  While I love the way the guitar looks, the way it plays and the way it sounds are too entirely different stories. 

Yes, I also realize it's an Epiphone, not a high-end Gibson acoustic.

Do I hate Gibson?

 

[swarfrat]

While we all want one of everything, it is important to have enough discipline to maintain focus on each instrument, so that you end up with a collection of instruments which have different strengths, rather than a dozen iterations of 'the perfect guitar'

That's basically what's gonna happen...you'll have 12 "perfect guitars."  :icon_thumright:

No you'll have 12 very similar guitars with a collection of minor differences that either improved upon something you already did, or failed. And very little reason to play 10 or even 11 of them.

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

While we all want one of everything, it is important to have enough discipline to maintain focus on each instrument, so that you end up with a collection of instruments which have different strengths, rather than a dozen iterations of 'the perfect guitar'

That's basically what's gonna happen...you'll have 12 "perfect guitars."  :icon_thumright:

No you'll have 12 very similar guitars with a collection of minor differences that either improved upon something you already did, or failed. And very little reason to play 10 or even 11 of them.

Which means you'll still have 12 "perfect" guitars.

 

[SustainerPlayer]

Let's see ... one in standard tuning ... one in open G ... one DADGAD ... etc.

I see nothing wrong in a handful of perfect guitars in alternate tunings. Beats the Variax* any day.







*I used to have a Variax for this purpose.

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

Let's see ... one in standard tuning ... one in open G ... one DADGAD ... etc.

I see nothing wrong in a handful of perfect guitars in alternate tunings. Beats the Variax* any day.







*I used to have a Variax for this purpose.

Got that right.  While I think some of these "pioneering" designs are sort of cool in their own way, I have no interest in owning a "robot" guitar.  We already have guitars with frets that light up, and while that's (arguably) a great learning tool, what are you actually learning?  Are you learning scales, or only learning what supposedly sounds good; "Okay, so if I put my finger here, that means I can play these notes and they'll sound good!"  Is there anything of value to be gotten from this approach?

Since when did using one's brain become such an inconvenience? 

 

[Danuda]

I also have to echo Tipperman's advice: When in doubt, build a Strat. It's simply the best design ever conceived for an electric guitar as far as comfort and utility. That's why It's the most popular guitar extant. You'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who hasn't owned at least one, if not multiples of the thing. Every other design needs an excuse for its existence. With a Strat, you just say "Of course!"

It's amazing, really. Leo Fender wasn't even a player, and clearly wasn't any kind of mechanical engineer, but that design has withstood the test of time with little or no modification like few other things have outside of Kleenex, Coca-cola and corn flakes. Tone, neck access, balance, appearance... the list is long. It's just the standard by which all others are judged. So, you can't go wrong travelling that road.

I've owned a great many guitars over the last 40 years or so, and early on thought Gibson was the answer to everything, but now? If it's not a Strat or some variation of it, I won't have it. At least, not for long, what with eBay.

Although, I am changing my mind about Teles... <grin>

I have never owned a strat.  When I started playing guitar I avoided them because I thought they looked kind of ugly.  Later I avoided them because everyone else had one.  Now I don't have one because I haven't got around to building one. 

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

I also have to echo Tipperman's advice: When in doubt, build a Strat. It's simply the best design ever conceived for an electric guitar as far as comfort and utility. That's why It's the most popular guitar extant. You'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who hasn't owned at least one, if not multiples of the thing. Every other design needs an excuse for its existence. With a Strat, you just say "Of course!"

It's amazing, really. Leo Fender wasn't even a player, and clearly wasn't any kind of mechanical engineer, but that design has withstood the test of time with little or no modification like few other things have outside of Kleenex, Coca-cola and corn flakes. Tone, neck access, balance, appearance... the list is long. It's just the standard by which all others are judged. So, you can't go wrong travelling that road.

I've owned a great many guitars over the last 40 years or so, and early on thought Gibson was the answer to everything, but now? If it's not a Strat or some variation of it, I won't have it. At least, not for long, what with eBay.

Although, I am changing my mind about Teles... <grin>

I have never owned a strat.  When I started playing guitar I avoided them because I thought they looked kind of ugly.  Later I avoided them because everyone else had one.  Now I don't have one because I haven't got around to building one. 

This evening I played my Tele for the first time in nearly 3 months.  I replaced the stripped out saddle screws, set'er up, and decided to give it a go.  Yeah, it plays nice, but it ain't got nothin' on my Star-bodied Warmoth.

The only Strat I'm gassing for is a Dave Murray Signature model.  Other than that, I like to play'em while I'm at the music store, but I don't have an interest in one.