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[DangerousR6]

is it just me,or the top not symmetrical...?

Mmmmmmm, it's just you.... :icon_biggrin:

 

[DocNrock]

is it just me,or the top not symmetrical...?

Mmmmmmm, it's just you.... :icon_biggrin:

His definition of symmetry is a Les Paul shape.  That's OK, I forgive him.  :laughing7:

 

[DangerousR6]

is it just me,or the top not symmetrical...?

Mmmmmmm, it's just you.... :icon_biggrin:

His definition of symmetry is a Les Paul shape.  That's OK, I forgive him.  :laughing7:

 

[Orpheo]

oh come on! dont you guys see that the grainpatterns dont match? its not a bookmatch, not even close.

 

[mscmkr]

Take it.

I suspect that if a luthier fills it up, you wouldnt even know it existed given the "crazy" spalted maple look. Or you can go symmetrical as the other guys told you.

To tell you the truth, though, it took me a while to understand what the exact problem was, so it is not a big issue in my eyes.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

New idea

Start actually making full guitars. Become a guitar company that sells quality guitars ( Not that i'm saying it's bad, warmoth is fantastic quality) as well as make your own custom guitars, parts and accessories.

Become a competitor to the big guns.





Also make set neck guitar and bass bodies






And maybe banjo's and mandolins. :toothy11:




:toothy10:

 

[Orpheo]

well, I have no problems with it, but I just find it striking that the top is not bookmatched. that would be a very, very big turn-off for me....

 

[Nando Vallart]

Orpheo, Spalted Maple never are bookmatched as much as Flamed Maple... Don't know exactly why, but the "decay" make it very different and, for those I've seen (I've been searching for pics of spalted maple guitars in the last 6 years, at least) this is a very simmetrical Spalted Maple...

 

[Orpheo]

Orpheo, Spalted Maple never are bookmatched as much as Flamed Maple... Don't know exactly why, but the "decay" make it very different and, for those I've seen (I've been searching for pics of spalted maple guitars in the last 6 years, at least) this is a very simmetrical Spalted Maple...

yeah, but this is very un-matched. the top DangerousR6 has is very nice bookmatched. thats why this axe made me so curious about 'am I the only one who notices this

 

[DangerousR6]

Orpheo, Spalted Maple never are bookmatched as much as Flamed Maple... Don't know exactly why, but the "decay" make it very different and, for those I've seen (I've been searching for pics of spalted maple guitars in the last 6 years, at least) this is a very simmetrical Spalted Maple...

yeah, but this is very un-matched. the top DangerousR6 has is very nice bookmatched. thats why this axe made me so curious about 'am I the only one who notices this

Nonsense is partially correct, spalts can and are "bookmatched" most of the time, maybe not as much as flamed maple. It's really a crap shoot most often, mine is very symetrical on one side. But if you turn it over the backsides aren't. So really it depends on how deep the spalt is in the wood and the thickness at which they are cut...

 

[DocNrock]

If you look at the flame pattern, it looks symmetrical and bookmatched.  I think Dangerous and Nonsense have it correct.  The spalting is pretty close to symmetrical, and what difference there is may be accounted for by the sanding process.

 

[RobR]

it is a fantastic looking body!

 

[Johnhamdun]

Orpheo, Spalted Maple never are bookmatched as much as Flamed Maple... Don't know exactly why, but the "decay" make it very different and, for those I've seen (I've been searching for pics of spalted maple guitars in the last 6 years, at least) this is a very simmetrical Spalted Maple...

yeah, but this is very un-matched. the top DangerousR6 has is very nice bookmatched. thats why this axe made me so curious about 'am I the only one who notices this

I noticed it too - I do not know how the word symmetry is defined in woodworking, but if it was split down the middle the left side would not look the same as the right side. I was under the impression that that was the definition of symmetry :laughing7:. I think I like the top better with an a-symmetrical look, but I would argue that the top definitely does not look symmetrical.

 

[DangerousR6]

Orpheo, Spalted Maple never are bookmatched as much as Flamed Maple... Don't know exactly why, but the "decay" make it very different and, for those I've seen (I've been searching for pics of spalted maple guitars in the last 6 years, at least) this is a very simmetrical Spalted Maple...

yeah, but this is very un-matched. the top DangerousR6 has is very nice bookmatched. thats why this axe made me so curious about 'am I the only one who notices this

I noticed it too - I do not know how the word symmetry is defined in woodworking, but if it was split down the middle the left side would not look the same as the right side. I was under the impression that that was the definition of symmetry :laughing7:. I think I like the top better with an a-symmetrical look, but I would argue that the top definitely does not look symmetrical.

I think you're confused as to how the book matched tops are made. Perhaps you should read this link.
http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/options/options_laminate_top.cfm

If a particular grain pattern carries through the wood deep enough then when it is split it creates the "bookmatch' pattern, and typically is "symetrical". The only instance i would see that not the case is if the pattern doesn't carry through the thickness of the piece being cut... :glasses9:

And also it depends on how much of the edges  that are to be mated together are planed to make them square with each other. That could result in an uneven pattern at the seam of the pieces....

 

[DangerousR6]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. This piece is for the most part symetrical, but you can see that more of the edge on the lower piece was removed than the upper piece. And in the second pic, the backs of the same pieces are different, so the spalt didn't carry through all the way. BTW, these 2 pieces of spalt are 1 1/8" thick too.....

 

[Orpheo]

Orpheo, Spalted Maple never are bookmatched as much as Flamed Maple... Don't know exactly why, but the "decay" make it very different and, for those I've seen (I've been searching for pics of spalted maple guitars in the last 6 years, at least) this is a very simmetrical Spalted Maple...

yeah, but this is very un-matched. the top DangerousR6 has is very nice bookmatched. thats why this axe made me so curious about 'am I the only one who notices this

I noticed it too - I do not know how the word symmetry is defined in woodworking, but if it was split down the middle the left side would not look the same as the right side. I was under the impression that that was the definition of symmetry :laughing7:. I think I like the top better with an a-symmetrical look, but I would argue that the top definitely does not look symmetrical.

I think you're confused as to how the book matched tops are made. Perhaps you should read this link.
http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/options/options_laminate_top.cfm

If a particular grain pattern carries through the wood deep enough then when it is split it creates the "bookmatch' pattern, and typically is "symetrical". The only instance i would see that not the case is if the pattern doesn't carry through the thickness of the piece being cut... :glasses9:

And also it depends on how much of the edges  that are to be mated together are planed to make them square with each other. That could result in an uneven pattern at the seam of the pieces....

jerk....


I hate it when somebody else's right... I forget this aspect quite a lot.

 

[DangerousR6]

Orpheo, Spalted Maple never are bookmatched as much as Flamed Maple... Don't know exactly why, but the "decay" make it very different and, for those I've seen (I've been searching for pics of spalted maple guitars in the last 6 years, at least) this is a very simmetrical Spalted Maple...

yeah, but this is very un-matched. the top DangerousR6 has is very nice bookmatched. thats why this axe made me so curious about 'am I the only one who notices this

I noticed it too - I do not know how the word symmetry is defined in woodworking, but if it was split down the middle the left side would not look the same as the right side. I was under the impression that that was the definition of symmetry :laughing7:. I think I like the top better with an a-symmetrical look, but I would argue that the top definitely does not look symmetrical.

I think you're confused as to how the book matched tops are made. Perhaps you should read this link.
http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/options/options_laminate_top.cfm

If a particular grain pattern carries through the wood deep enough then when it is split it creates the "bookmatch' pattern, and typically is "symetrical". The only instance i would see that not the case is if the pattern doesn't carry through the thickness of the piece being cut... :glasses9:

And also it depends on how much of the edges  that are to be mated together are planed to make them square with each other. That could result in an uneven pattern at the seam of the pieces....

jerk....


I hate it when somebody else's right... I forget this aspect quite a lot.

:icon_biggrin:

 

[DocNrock]

Besides, look at the body and ignore the spalting.  The flame pattern in the maple lines up like a bookmatch.

 

[DangerousR6]

Besides, look at the body and ignore the spalting.  The flame pattern in the maple lines up like a bookmatch.

:laughing7:

 

[SrDeMaFp]

well, I have no problems with it, but I just find it striking that the top is not bookmatched. that would be a very, very big turn-off for me....

Looks better to me. :dontknow: