Wiring using a mini switch instead of 3-way switch

[seagulc]

I'm about to wire my pickups and wondering about the on-on-on mini switch I purchased. I plan to use this in place of a regular 3 way switch for cosmetic reasons.

Can anyone help me out with the wiring diagram?

This is the setup I want - http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_2v_2t_3w - except using a mini switch (which has 6 parts to solder to) instead of a 3 way switch. How do I do the wiring on the mini switch like this one - http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/9/4/431294.jpg ?


Thanks in advance.

 

[line6man]

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=3ws_trans

 

[seagulc]

Thanks a lot man, exactly what I wanted. One other question - is it correct to run the final ground wire from the ground of the output jack to the bridge ground, or should the ground wire end at the output jack with the bridge ground wire in the ground line before this point?

From what I understand it's the former, but I'd like to be certain.

edit: Also, where would I ground the mini switch? On the 3 way switch there's a small tab at the top but this doesn't seem to be on a mini switch.

And one more question - for concentric pots, is it okay to run all the grounds to the lower pot (the one that's visible when doing wiring) and then connect one ground wire from the upper pot side to the lower pot? Or do I need to do some awkward sideways soldering?

 

[line6man]

Thanks a lot man, exactly what I wanted. One other question - is it correct to run the final ground wire from the ground of the output jack to the bridge ground, or should the ground wire end at the output jack with the bridge ground wire in the ground line before this point?

From what I understand it's the former, but I'd like to be certain.

Grounds are grounds. Just as long as they all connect together with 0 ohms continuity, it doesn't matter how you do it.

 

[seagulc]

Fair enough, still if you could answer my last question in my edit that would be great

 

[exalted]

line6man's advice is still sound - grounds are grounds. You don't HAVE to ground to the back of the pot, concentric or not. That's just the most convenient way to do it.

 

[seagulc]

How about the switch though? Can I attach the ground to one of the little tabs that's not in use, or is there a more ideal spot to put it?

Thanks for all the advice guys, I'm a complete beginner and a little nervous about this..

 

[line6man]

edit: Also, where would I ground the mini switch? On the 3 way switch there's a small tab at the top but this doesn't seem to be on a mini switch.

And one more question - for concentric pots, is it okay to run all the grounds to the lower pot (the one that's visible when doing wiring) and then connect one ground wire from the upper pot side to the lower pot? Or do I need to do some awkward sideways soldering?

The mini switch doesn't really need to be grounded, but if anything, it should be grounded through your shielding.
Or is you ground a washer and place it between the chassis of the switch and the wood.

The chassis of a concentric pot is continuous from top gang to bottom gang.
If you ground any part of it, all of it will be grounded.

 

[seagulc]

Perfect, exactly the info I needed - thanks man.

 

[seagulc]

So would this setup work? Black lines are the ground, red is hot. Sorry for the terrible writing.

 

[line6man]

So would this setup work? Black lines are the ground, red is hot. Sorry for the terrible writing.

That's incorrect.

You have the volume controls running backwards. Swap terminals one and three. The tone controls are fine.
After you have swapped the terminals as described above, terminal three of all four pots should be grounded.

Do you need a diagram?

 

[tfarny]

An idea I got from somewhere else, that I'm going to use in all future builds and re-wires, is to ground everything, literally everything worth grounding, to a single eyelet screw in the control cavity. No solder on the pots, cleaner cavity, fewer things to go wrong like wires lifting off the back of pots. 

 

[seagulc]

That's incorrect.

You have the volume controls running backwards. Swap terminals one and three. The tone controls are fine.
After you have swapped the terminals as described above, terminal three of all four pots should be grounded.

Do you need a diagram?

Oh, I didn't realize the terminals have a set top and bottom. How can I tell which is terminal 1 rather than terminal 3? Why does terminal 3 on the tone pots need to be grounded if the two pots are connected?  Thanks.


Thanks

 

[line6man]

That's incorrect.

You have the volume controls running backwards. Swap terminals one and three. The tone controls are fine.
After you have swapped the terminals as described above, terminal three of all four pots should be grounded.

Do you need a diagram?

Oh, I didn't realize the terminals have a set top and bottom. How can I tell which is terminal 1 rather than terminal 3? Why does terminal 3 on the tone pots need to be grounded if the two pots are connected?  Thanks.


Thanks

What do you mean by top and bottom?

This is the way I refer to the terminals on a pot:

The reason terminal three needs to be grounded on the volume pot is to allow the volume control to do it's job of diverting the signal to ground to reduce the output.
The reason terminal three needs to be grounded on the tone control is to complete the circuit for the capacitor to connect in parallel with the signal.

 

[seagulc]

Thanks so much for the tips. By top and bottom I just meant which terminal is which, which you explained quite well. Here's my new diagram, how does it look?

 

[line6man]

Thanks so much for the tips. By top and bottom I just meant which terminal is which, which you explained quite well. Here's my new diagram, how does it look?

Looks good.