ss396 speaketh truth. Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I never had a problem with regular old, high quality NON-locking tuners like Schaller, Gotoh, old Grovers etc. There must be something special you have to do to them to make them slip, but I never figured out what. :icon_scratch: Of course I don't have any plug-in air fresheners and my car doesn't talk to me, I leave all these new-fangled "improvements" to you young'uns, heh heh heh etc. Creak. thud... :confused4: