Why?

[big bob]

why can't a neck be ordered in paddock with a maple fret board? is there a structural reason?

just wondering

 

[Steve_Karl]

Have you called Warmoth to ask?
That's what I'd suggest. I'ts possible it's just not listed in the neck builder area because it's not a common option.
They might do it for you if you call.

 

[Dan025]

there were questions about this a while back  i ont remember the  exact reason but i can tell you they wont do it, maple goes on maple only. maybe someone will post a link or wylee will chime in. but i can tell you that they will say no and that if you get them to do it that it will not be refundable and maybe not even covered under warentee.

 

[hannaugh]

I would also like to know why you can't get a maple fretboard with a different type of wood for the neck shaft.  It seems weird. 

 

[Patrick from Davis]

Way back when there was a discussion about how maple wanders.  Something along those lines.  I could be screwing this up, it was several years ago, but the fret boards worked well with gluing to maple and not to other woods because of that property.  I suppose I could look it up, but the fact of the matter is Warmoth wasn't comfortable selling them because of that, or something like it.
Patrick

 

[Wyliee]

I would also like to know why you can't get a maple fretboard with a different type of wood for the neck shaft.  It seems weird. 

There are a couple reasons that compound the issue.  One is expansion/contraction of the wood.  Putting woods together with differing rates is a good recipe for trouble.  Additionally, maple needs a finish to help stability and exotics do not take finishes well.  It can be difficult to finish just the fingerboard and not have the finish potentially chip or peel over time.

 

[line6man]

Isn't it completely freaking obvious that Maple needs a finish, and most other woods do not?

Can you imagine the uneven feeling of having a finish on the side of the fingerboard, with the back of the neck being raw? Depending on how thick the finish is, you would feel the neck get thicker at the edges of the fingerboard.
There is also the possibility of the finish chipping as well.

 

[DangerousR6]

I would also like to know why you can't get a maple fretboard with a different type of wood for the neck shaft.  It seems weird. 

There are a couple reasons that compound the issue.  One is expansion/contraction of the wood.  Putting woods together with differing rates is a good recipe for trouble.  Additionally, maple needs a finish to help stability and exotics do not take finishes well.  It can be difficult to finish just the fingerboard and not have the finish potentially chip or peel over time.

I don't see that as being factual, the most popular neck.fretboard combo in the world is maple/rosewood. Maple needs a finish rosewood does not, rosewood is by all definition an exotic. So is basically what your saying cannot be done, has been for years...

I'm just sayin'.... :dontknow:

 

[hannaugh]

Isn't it completely freaking obvious that Maple needs a finish, and most other woods do not?

Can you imagine the uneven feeling of having a finish on the side of the fingerboard, with the back of the neck being raw? Depending on how thick the finish is, you would feel the neck get thicker at the edges of the fingerboard.
There is also the possibility of the finish chipping as well.

Maple on mahogany, maple on black korina, maple on koa, maple on walnut.  All of those would require a finish on the entire neck.  So, no it isn't obvious because it doesn't apply to everything. 

 

[Dan025]

Isn't it completely freaking obvious that Maple needs a finish, and most other woods do not?

Can you imagine the uneven feeling of having a finish on the side of the fingerboard, with the back of the neck being raw? Depending on how thick the finish is, you would feel the neck get thicker at the edges of the fingerboard.
There is also the possibility of the finish chipping as well.

what stops them from finishing the whole thing? i know some exotics dont glue well and may not finnish well but not all of them.

 

[Wyliee]

I would also like to know why you can't get a maple fretboard with a different type of wood for the neck shaft.  It seems weird. 

There are a couple reasons that compound the issue.  One is expansion/contraction of the wood.  Putting woods together with differing rates is a good recipe for trouble.  Additionally, maple needs a finish to help stability and exotics do not take finishes well.  It can be difficult to finish just the fingerboard and not have the finish potentially chip or peel over time.

I don't see that as being factual, the most popular neck.fretboard combo in the world is maple/rosewood. Maple needs a finish rosewood does not, rosewood is by all definition an exotic. So is basically what your saying cannot be done, has been for years...


I'm just sayin'.... :dontknow:

The finish on the maple helps protect the wood from significant moisture changes, which limits the amount of movement.  The key issue here, IMO, is stability.  Will the two woods work together in the long term?  I suppose if someone really, really wanted maple on mahogany, it might be possible.  Not sure that I'd want to warranty it.  That's not my call though.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Rather than guess why one would want a Maple fretboard on a non-Maple neck, I'll just say I wouldn't.  Out of all the options available, I can't believe that this is one that there are hangups on.

 

[DangerousR6]

Rather than guess why one would want a Maple fretboard on a non-Maple neck, I'll just say I wouldn't.  Out of all the options available, I can't believe that this is one that there are hangups on.

Tell me this doesn't look good....

 

[DangerousR6]

I don't see what the issue would be for maple to mahogany, it's done all the time too..Granted this is not a mahogany neck with a maple fretboard, but maple and mahogany are glued together in numerous applications.... :dontknow:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Tell me this doesn't look good....

Not to me.  Probably just because I'm conditioned not to like it.  I'm not used to seeing Maple on any other thing than Maple, or used to seeing fretboards lighter than necks.  FWIW, there is such a thing as white Wenge.  From a distance it can look like Maple, plus there's the no finish factor.

 

[DangerousR6]

Tell me this doesn't look good....

Not to me.  Probably just because I'm conditioned not to like it.  I'm not used to seeing Maple on any other thing than Maple, or used to seeing fretboards lighter than necks.  FWIW, there is such a thing as white Wenge.  From a distance it can look like Maple, plus there's the no finish factor.

It's from the same tree, whitish yellow wenge is the sap wood. The dark wenge we mostly see is the heart wood which afterr harvesting, Wenge is a yellow brown color. However, over time, it darkens to a deep brown color that may fringe into black.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Didn't know they were the same tree but it makes sense, kind of like Black Korina/White Korina.

This is what I was thinking of, although I've seen lighter pieces for fretboards.  This pic is more yellow than white, but hardly the dark brown we normally associate with Wenge.

 

[Superlizard]

why can't a neck be ordered in paddock with a maple fret board? is there a structural reason?

just wondering

Why would you want a paddock neck in the first place?  :icon_scratch:

 

[DangerousR6]

I would also like to know why you can't get a maple fretboard with a different type of wood for the neck shaft.  It seems weird. 

There are a couple reasons that compound the issue.  One is expansion/contraction of the wood.  Putting woods together with differing rates is a good recipe for trouble.  Additionally, maple needs a finish to help stability and exotics do not take finishes well.  It can be difficult to finish just the fingerboard and not have the finish potentially chip or peel over time.

I don't see that as being factual, the most popular neck.fretboard combo in the world is maple/rosewood. Maple needs a finish rosewood does not, rosewood is by all definition an exotic. So is basically what your saying cannot be done, has been for years...


I'm just sayin'.... :dontknow:

The finish on the maple helps protect the wood from significant moisture changes, which limits the amount of movement.  The key issue here, IMO, is stability.  Will the two woods work together in the long term?  I suppose if someone really, really wanted maple on mahogany, it might be possible.  Not sure that I'd want to warranty it.  That's not my call though.

:dontknow:

 

[big bob]

That is sweet...