The only problem I have with different categories every month is it could be many months before you get to enter your guitar. I completed mine back about October and don't know when id be able to enter it. I've already started planning my second. I don't plan on winning but hate the idea of waiting 3 to 6 months just to enter. Since there is no real prize do you really need categories??? Or like some one else suggested, vote on originality, finish, style etc. Maybe by model, strats teles or les Pauls, basses etc.
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I'd like to submit, that if there's a ton of coffee table strats, that maybe its because that's what people are ordering?
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Wouldn't surprise me. Plain ol' Strats & Teles are a dime a dozen. They practically sell them in blister packs. People go to Warmoth to get something they can't get somewhere else like exotic woods, premium finishes, custom configurations and exceptional quality.
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Works of art are just that
and will not get my vote during a GOTM contest
Yes I love a lot of exotic and stuff like that
However, if it looks like it is not going to get played because it is so perfect. well that is just that.
I do not think guitars built to be looked at are what I would want.
Do not get me wrong, I have a beautiful PRS with ten top and Barn Door is a looker, but both have wear marks on them by now, Barn door has already been dropped, chipped, missed a stand a few times. I mean she has ben used and abused, And I love her more for that, Same as the PRS.
My vote has gone to some pretty plain looking guitars here if the build was right.
I may have said that before, but I do not think that we should Judge GOTM by uber killer finishes that look like they will be put in a glass case to be displayed.
and will not get my vote during a GOTM contest
Yes I love a lot of exotic and stuff like that
However, if it looks like it is not going to get played because it is so perfect. well that is just that.
I do not think guitars built to be looked at are what I would want.
Do not get me wrong, I have a beautiful PRS with ten top and Barn Door is a looker, but both have wear marks on them by now, Barn door has already been dropped, chipped, missed a stand a few times. I mean she has ben used and abused, And I love her more for that, Same as the PRS.
My vote has gone to some pretty plain looking guitars here if the build was right.
I may have said that before, but I do not think that we should Judge GOTM by uber killer finishes that look like they will be put in a glass case to be displayed.
Send me your pretty guitars, I'll play them. :evil4: :laughing7:
I don't really understand the "I can't play it because it's too pretty" thing. I think they get prettier if they get worn in and dinged up a little.
I do understand "I can't play it because it cost me three months pay" though, and that's why I'll probably never spend more than $2000 on a guitar.
I don't really understand the "I can't play it because it's too pretty" thing. I think they get prettier if they get worn in and dinged up a little.
I do understand "I can't play it because it cost me three months pay" though, and that's why I'll probably never spend more than $2000 on a guitar.
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>>I don't really understand the "I can't play it because it's too pretty" thing. I think they get prettier if they get worn in and dinged up a little.
I don't really understand how banging something up and wearing it out makes it prettier. Although, I have noticed that some people do that to their cars, houses, spouses and children, too <grin>
I don't really understand how banging something up and wearing it out makes it prettier. Although, I have noticed that some people do that to their cars, houses, spouses and children, too <grin>
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Why do you "assume" they never get played? :icon_scratch:
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I know guys who own guitars that never get played
one has a PRS Dragon Private Stock, it sits in a glass case
Another has several vintage guitars, a 3 on dispay, will not even let you touch the,.
And I have acquaintances with other boutique guitars that just sit in cases and pulled out to show off,'Ask any of them to gig one of those guitars and hey will tell you NOPE, TO valuable as they are.
one has a PRS Dragon Private Stock, it sits in a glass case
Another has several vintage guitars, a 3 on dispay, will not even let you touch the,.
And I have acquaintances with other boutique guitars that just sit in cases and pulled out to show off,'Ask any of them to gig one of those guitars and hey will tell you NOPE, TO valuable as they are.
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Thats BS. Can't a guitar be built to look at AND played? At the same time even?
I get what your saying Jusa, but just because something looks like it belongs behind glass doesn't mean its not a daily player either...
I know your comments weren't directed at me, but I felt compelled to respond. Granted my strat is as flawless (sans more scratches on the pick-
guard of course) as the day I finished it, but that's just because I'm not in a band. I'm not hauling it out to practices and gigs where natural
wear-and-tear would occur on a daily player. I've actually brought it to a music store and let people I've never met and don't know play it (with
me out-of-sight across the store), just to get some honest outside opinions on how it plays, how it sounds, etc.
IMHO, there's nothing more sad in life than guitars than don't get played, cars that don't get driven, and guns that never get shot.
I figure I built it once, if anything ever happened to it - I can fix whats broken or build another one.
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The comparision to cars is a very good one. There are folks tht invest a lot of money to have trailer queens (hulled to where ever the next show is) and those that believe in driving them there. Most of the time there are different classes at a car show. Pre War Cars, Classics, Customs, Survivors, Fully Restored 100 point cars etc. Even dog shows have classes; Work Dogs, Lap Dogs, Herding Dogs etc.
Maybe each month you have two or three categories, similar to a car show? For lack of better titles (I'm sure someone can come up with some) Players and Wall Hangers (read that as stock to slighlty modified, and very customized). Maybe you could have a best in show category each month? I just don't like different ones different months becasue you have to wait and wait to submit yours because it doesn't fit that month or two or three's category.
Maybe a better question is, if you opened it up to any and all comers every month and had two or three categories, how many submission would you get?
Maybe each month you have two or three categories, similar to a car show? For lack of better titles (I'm sure someone can come up with some) Players and Wall Hangers (read that as stock to slighlty modified, and very customized). Maybe you could have a best in show category each month? I just don't like different ones different months becasue you have to wait and wait to submit yours because it doesn't fit that month or two or three's category.
Maybe a better question is, if you opened it up to any and all comers every month and had two or three categories, how many submission would you get?
Just thought I'd be the first to reply.... If it were open categories, I'd submit two this year. One I finsihed late last year and ahve been waiting to submit and one that I haven't order the parts for yet. (I'm ordering next week).
Both are closer to players than wall hangers by definition but will probably never see much playing time. (I'm not in a band and only play and build becuase I like to). Both Tele bodies with standard Warmoth finishes but with my own twist on the complete assembly.
Both are closer to players than wall hangers by definition but will probably never see much playing time. (I'm not in a band and only play and build becuase I like to). Both Tele bodies with standard Warmoth finishes but with my own twist on the complete assembly.
Players and wall hangers... freaking ridiculous. Who builds a Warmoth just to look at it???? Nobody, that's who. You might buy an $8000 guitar and just look at it, but nobody custom builds a guitar to their playing specs to just put it under glass because it doesn't make any sense to do that.
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Orchrist, I know you play yours, I am talking about units don't get played. I just do not get into them.
to me a guitar is a tool, and should be used.
you know it internet is a bad place to discuss some things, because I feel communication is so much more than printed word. I think that with only printed word things get misinterpreted that would not get that way in person.
Oh well
to me a guitar is a tool, and should be used.
you know it internet is a bad place to discuss some things, because I feel communication is so much more than printed word. I think that with only printed word things get misinterpreted that would not get that way in person.
Oh well
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I still think either the way it was done before, or even simpler is the way to go. You either built/assembled a badass guitar, or you didn't. End of discussion. There were never so many submissions that they needed categorization, and at its most heated I don't think the voting base ever numbered higher than 100. Thin the herd too much with excessive delineation, and you'll have people winning with 2 votes. "I won the Guitar-Of-The-Month award in the pro-finished hardtail reverse headstock dual-pickup non-figured wood 7 string Strat category for July! Yay!" Too bad there were 19 awards given out that month for the 21 entries and yours was the only entry in its category.
Hardly any kind of recognition. We're down to little league baseball again. "Oh, you can't hit, pitch, catch or throw to save your life? That's ok. Here's a big-ass trophy. Stick around... we've got a banquet set up for you too, with some rubber chicken, cold string beans and melted jello coming. You're so special!"
Hardly any kind of recognition. We're down to little league baseball again. "Oh, you can't hit, pitch, catch or throw to save your life? That's ok. Here's a big-ass trophy. Stick around... we've got a banquet set up for you too, with some rubber chicken, cold string beans and melted jello coming. You're so special!"
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Cagey said:
But the piece you're missing is a somewhat specific category also encourages people to enter who might not otherwise. We got about as many bass entries (if not more) in the bass month last year as the whole rest of the year combined.
And as long as they're broad enough categories, I think having one every few months makes it more interesting.
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