Things you'd never do on a guitar build...

[stubhead]

Dag nab, you give the smart'uns a little leash an' they git it wrapped all round the bushes, every time. By cracky. Root-tootin'... toot sweet?


Put a horse doover in it, likely fit better'n them donkey doovers you been usin, podner

 

[mayfly]

I didn't mean you were being disparaging, just that it's that kind of term. You may not have even known the etymology. Kinda like "jerry-rigged" pokes at Germans. Most people aren't aware of that, either.

Really? I never knew that, although I suppose I never really thought about where that phrase came from before. Interesting!

And just my $0.02, but "ricer" and "rice burner" have always been used in a racist or derogatory way every time I've ever heard them uttered, so I'm with you on that front.

Is that so?  When?  The only time I've ever heard "ricer" used is when referring to something such as a Honda with a "coffee can" exhaust tip on it.  :icon_scratch:

well there you go - it's right in front of you:  Ricer, rice rocket, rice burner.  One step away from "jap crap".  It's racist - or at least that's it's origin.

 

[hannaugh]

I find it odd that I learned this term from the very people it is supposed to be disparaging.  I knew tons of Asian guys in high school who had tricked out their Honda Civics, and they were the first people I heard call them "rice rockets".   

There are tons of words that come from racist origins. "Cretin" for example, supposedly has it's origins all the way back to when the ancient Greeks hated the people of Crete (if you remember your mythology, that's where the evil King Minos lived according to the the guy with the Minotaur and the labyrinth o' death).  At least that's what they said in a documentary I watched.  "Gyp" is another veiled racist word. 

http://www.cracked.com/article_16967_8-racist-words-you-use-every-day.html

Etymology is pretty interesting sometimes. 

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

I didn't mean you were being disparaging, just that it's that kind of term. You may not have even known the etymology. Kinda like "jerry-rigged" pokes at Germans. Most people aren't aware of that, either.

Really? I never knew that, although I suppose I never really thought about where that phrase came from before. Interesting!

And just my $0.02, but "ricer" and "rice burner" have always been used in a racist or derogatory way every time I've ever heard them uttered, so I'm with you on that front.

Is that so?  When?  The only time I've ever heard "ricer" used is when referring to something such as a Honda with a "coffee can" exhaust tip on it.  :icon_scratch:

well there you go - it's right in front of you:  Ricer, rice rocket, rice burner.  One step away from "jap crap".  It's racist - or at least that's it's origin.

Nice swing and a miss.  Rice is a grain, not a race.  Asian countries are major exports of grains such as rice and also keep in mind a lot of Chinese/Japanese dishes contain rice in the ingredients.  Where do you think the term "rice burner" comes from, because it surely isn't a target on Asian people.  Now, if you were to call one of the cars a "gook mobile," then I would agree with you.

While you're on a streak of pinning foods as being racist epithets, maybe we should target french bread pizza, danishes, italian sausages, swedish meatballs, asian pears, american cheese, italian wedding soup, and greek yogurt.  :tard:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Whichever the case, a "ricer" doesn't refer to an incorrectly badged (German) BMW like the post that started it all.  But me thinks it still derogatory because it reduces a race of people to a crop.  Just look at how "beans" and "cotton" can have a negative connotation when referring to people who harvest them.

In the electrical field, the cheap electric tape made in China is known as "Jap Wrap."

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

Whichever the case, a "ricer" doesn't refer to an incorrectly badged (German) BMW like the post that started it all.  But me thinks it still derogatory because it reduces a race of people to a crop.  Just look at how "beans" and "cotton" can have a negative connotation when referring to people who harvest them.

In the electrical field, the cheap electric tape made in China is known as "Jap Wrap."

Well, I've heard BMWs referred to as "kraut" plenty of times.

As for the term "ricer," I'm the one who made the statement first.  I Google-Searched ricer for "IMAGES" and here's the first pic that came up...

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/5-0l-talk/54866d1226003518-ricer-thread-ricer.jpg

Riceboy?  Here ya are.

http://www.riceboypage.com/what_is_riceboy/

I'm no longer debating the "rice" term.  That's all well and good some of you are campaigning for pats on the ass for your politically correctness but this entire subject has gone beyond ridiculous.  You can all vie to be "Hero Of the Day" for discovering something that doesn't exist, but I've seen enough.  Some of you clearly need a little excitement in your lives, considering you're actually spending time trying to make a ploy for a racially motivated comment out of something that has nothing to do with race whatsoever.  You certain people (and you know who I'm talking about...) are prime examples of why racism still exists today...you're always looking for reasons to bring race into an equation.  :tard:

Plain and simple, you couldn't pay me to buy a RICER of ANY type, whether it be a car, guitar, baseball bat, whatever, especially after my latest issues with foreign-made amplifier heads.  You can all point fingers until you're all blue in the face, I couldn't care less.  Grow up.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

What if it's an Affinity series J-Bass?

 

[Torment Leaves Scars]

What if it's an Affinity series J-Bass?

I didn't buy it, it was a gift.  Sure, it does the job for the $250 but still, I didn't buy it.  Would I replace it with another one if it was stolen?  It's cheap enough I'd think about it, and considering I use it once or twice per month, there's no sense in spending $800 on a Fender American Standard, but if I played regularly, I'd most certainly own something nicer.

Great for the value?  Sure.  Does it exceed expectations for the price point?  Sure.  Is it the greatest bass on the planet?  Not even close.

 

[Updown]

Put a Fender logo on a Warmoth neck (just wrong)
Floyd Rose  :evil4:
Bigsby
Kahler
Baby Grand Piano Bridge on a V or Firebird  :laughing11:  :laughing3:
HHH
Non Locking Tunners
String Tees
Pickups that need batteries
Cream Dots
Celtic Cross's
Oval
Stars
Nickel/Silver frets
Top Mount Strat output jack, on a rear rout. (just wrong)  :sad:
Ghost System
Turtle at the 12th fret  :icon_biggrin:

I don't mind installing GK-3's  :laughing7:
But …. I wouldn't install a Kaoss Pad into a Quilt or Flame Top  :doh:

 

[swarfrat]

I forgot to add 'non recessed TOM' and any other bridge requiring the neck to be angled.

 

[Cagey]

I don't think an angled pocket is such a Bad Thing if it's cut that way on purpose, but shimming the neck to get an angle is a mortal sin.

 

[swarfrat]

I find that angled necks + the way gibsons tend to hang at the 14th fret rather than the 12th fret - make my elbow dig into my side. It's a large part of the reason I built my guitar. Because I didn't want a Gibson.

 

[stubhead]

And any of the old repairmen (Dan Erlewine for one) who have worked on "classic" Fenders - the ones belonging to Clapton and Beck and Buddy Guy and so forth - will tell you that they find shims in at least half the neck pockets and the side gaps on some of them are big enough to fit a quarter in - you can even see it in the pictures of the "classic" 1968 (paisleys and not) Telecasters played by James Burton, Scotty Anderson, Brad Paisley.... apparently, some feel that the screws hold the neck on, not the pocket. It's a symptom of good workmanship, but perhaps not a cause of any certain tone one way or another - same way that Eric Johnson's attention to battery types and speaker-mounting screws is a symptom of a largely-successful obsession with tone.

Causation/correlation - without confusing those, we'd have no religion, "sports entertainment", fashion. politics, DIVERSITY - y'all would just agree with me about everything, drive my car, wear my clothes, eat my food.... buggers.

 

[jay4321]

I just picked up a cheaper mahogany guitar with a recessed TOM to get a feel for it, it seems pretty ideal for me.

[Guitar itself was under $200 on a blowout from Washburn and has some cheap-guitar flaws (meh finish quality, photo veneer, cheap electronics), but overall nothing that can't be fixed. Very thin neck profile bugs me a bit and I hate the red color. But if anyone can stand an Ibanez neck profile and needs an asian mahogany HxH guitar for $200 for metal stuff, and btw the neck appears to be mahogany and not maple as listed, it's here:

http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Washburn-RX50-Electric-Guitar-Flame-Maple-Transparent-Red.html

Definitely a useful beater guitar with a little fretwork and new pickups/electronics for people willing to tool with it. It's suspiciously light and very well balanced. It's become a project for me to try out some fret leveling and nut setup work.

But getting back to the point, the recessed TOM-no tailpiece just seems to make so much more sense. I think that's going to be my new bridge standard from here on out. 

 

[Updown]

I just picked up a cheaper mahogany guitar with a recessed TOM to get a feel for it, it seems pretty ideal for me.

the recessed TOM-no tailpiece just seems to make so much more sense.
I think that's going to be my new bridge standard from here on out. 

Good call  :icon_thumright:

These two
http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=19269.0
http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=17679.0
I just can't stop playing them  :guitarplayer2:

 

[fdesalvo]

Jury Rig dates to the mid 1700s and refers a temporary (nautical) mast to get the ship home.
Origins aside, I love http://thereIfixedIt.failblog.org

Lol just wasted an hour of life

 

[Jusatele]

:dontknow: :dontknow:

 

[Cagey]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[bagman67]

You can grill your steaks down low, and bake your fish up high.


Naaah.  Just a jury-rig, that's all.

 

[mullyman]

Gold hardware
Black hardware
LP head on a Strat
Strat head on an LP
Tele head on anything
Tele body on anything
Metallic flakes
Fender's Volume knob position
Floating tremolo (My number one hate)
scratch plates on figured tops...unless there is a bald spot that needs covering
non-locking tuners
Yamaha strings
wilkinson trem (I know many people like that trem but I've only had bad experience with it so it's out the door for me)
Pointy headstocks
only one humbucker and nothing else, except for the 5150 Kramer
Relic'd on purpose

MULLY
that's right, I don't like MULLY on a guitar  :cool01: