The new Schaller "Hannes" bridge.....Awesome stuff here!

[Superbeast520]

Talk about an awesome looking and apparently sounding Bridge.....wonder if this will catch on enough to become a Warmoth bridge route option...sure would love to see it. :icon_thumright:



http://schaller-electronic.com/hp231417/Schaller-Steg-bdquo-Hannes-ldquo.htm



Some more detailed info as well as installation instructions.....

http://schaller-guitarparts.de/hp122835/Hannes-Bridge.htm?ITServ=CY44c5734cX1258b0130eeX5794



Heres the installation instructions....

http://schaller-guitarparts.de/hp188177/Hannes-Bridge.htm



Buy Shaller products:  http://schaller-electronic.com/hp811/North-America.htm?ITServ=C25b29e4bX1258dee6a1aX10a4

 

[nathan a]

Well it certainly does look comfy.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

A few things are confusing if not intriguing.  It says that it does not have a common carrier, each string has it's own anchor in the body.  The Tele bridge does this via ferrules, and has for over 50 years.  Unlike the Tele, each saddle applies pressure individually, but they really don't if you look at the supplied mounting hardware.  Also, comparing to the Tele again, the 3 saddle bridges seem to be preferred (even at the cost of sacrificing approximate intonation) to the newer 6 saddle versions because of sustain.  This is closer to the 6 saddle version, which isn't preferable.  Also, the Hannes bridge's intonation screws are all anchored in a "common carrier," which would seem to negate any advantages of being independent.  If the Hipshot individual bass saddle bridge were available for guitar, it would do a better job of what this cliams to, IMO.

It looks too complicated for calling itself simple, and for the reasons I mentioned, there's no way it can do what it says.     

 

[kboman]

Well we have one of these bridges right here on the forum, so why not let someone with actual experience of this bridge give their opinion?

 

[tfarny]

I'm at a loss for how this is better than a strat hardtail bridge with good saddles. I guess it has a "premium look" as they say. I think that with relatively simple engineering problems like hardtail electric guitar bridges (as opposed to semiconductor design), elegant and simple solutions have already been found by clever engineers decades ago, and radical innovation resulting in real improvements (as opposed to incremental tweaks or cosmetic changes) is probably not possible.  With relatively harder problems like trem bridges, you see more scope for engineering innovation and correspondingly wider range of products, but even the Floyd is decades old.

 

[exaN]

Well it certainly looks very good, but like the others said I don't think this is much of an innovation.

The gold one is CLASSY

 

[Superbeast520]

Not unique or different huh???   I guess its only ground breaking at the namm show then..lol    :laughing7:

http://schaller-electronic.com/hp231411/Puntke-Guitars-And-now-for-something-completely-different.htm ............. ( read what this builder says....he actually uses it.... ):guitaristgif:


http://www.nature-shock.com/de_frameset_guitars.htm


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http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k278/theoneandonlymechris/Black%20Korina%20Body%20Flame%20Koa%20Top/Warmoth%20Stuff/Schaller_Ruthenium_07.jpg[/IMG]]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k278/theoneandonlymechris/Black%20Korina%20Body%20Flame%20Koa%20Top/Warmoth%20Stuff/Schaller_Ruthenium_23.jpg[/IMG]]

 

[Wyliee]

Quick note:  Had a chance to check these bridges out.  Not impressed.  The saddles can fall off as they are not permanently affixed.  Imagine changing strings on a dark stage only to have a black saddle fall off the bridge.....  No thanks.

 

[Superbeast520]

Certainly appreciate that info.....they don't mention that.....

( wait a minute...I have no E- String )....lol :laughing7:

 

[Superlizard]

Jimi & Jimmy didn't need no Hannes bridge.  :icon_jokercolor:

 

[nathan a]

Jimi & Jimmy didn't need no Hannes bridge.  :icon_jokercolor:

I will not be buying one of these bridges, but still-- I ain't no Jimi or Jimmy, and they aren't the reason I'm avoiding this thing.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Mounting this bridge on a Tele bridge plate defeats the whole purpose of this thing transmitting each saddle to the body and avoiding "cross talk." 

 

[Superbeast520]

Yes I admit this is not a bridge I will be buying, I initially loved it, but mostly because its so low profile, and because I really like hardtail bridges on strats as well as its very unique and clean looking.

After hearing about the saddles being loose like they are, and the thought of losing parts of the bridge when the strings are off of it is a big turn off for sure.

I did get excited being I do like guitars with hardtails, but for now Im gonna stick to what is tried and true and go with the Callaham Vintage Trem...... for blues and classic rock its all a guy really needs.

And Yes, its true, neither Jimi or Stevie Ray needed it. 

 

[tfarny]

In theory I could achieve this exact effect by cutting my hardtail callaham strat bridge into six pieces and mounting them using individual screws through holes I cut through the bridge plate. If I did that, does anyone think my tone would improve, and why? All of the strings' vibrations transferring through the bridge "end up" "muddled together" in the body anyhow, so why keep those vibrations "separate" at the bridge?
My guess is the only thing you'd notice is a loss of sustain and maybe some amount of microphonics as the little mini bridge plates vibrated all tone away. Any engineer types want to take a stab?

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

We could make all kinds of lists of what Jimi, Jimmy, and Stevie had or didn't have.  Jimi didn't have (or atleast wasn't known for) playing an instrument in his hand orientation, and there's not a whole slew of righty players playing left-handed instruments out there at last check.  If you're right-handed and play a right-handed instrument, you already have something Jimi didn't.  Jimmy has the tricked up "Jimmy Page" wiring now, and the masses seem to be fine w/out that.  Stevie had mucho guitars and decent guitar techs, with several instrument changes during shows.

 

[djf67]

Quick note:  Had a chance to check these bridges out.  Not impressed.  The saddles can fall off as they are not permanently affixed.  Imagine changing strings on a dark stage only to have a black saddle fall off the bridge.....  No thanks.

You have to tip the saddle up 90 degrees (as in the pic above) before it will come out. Surely a bigger issue is the work required to rout for the fittings.
Don't ask me about tone because I've put it on a unique hollow body so have nothing to compare. However, I love the guitar!

 

[Superbeast520]

Nice build, love that way it looks with the pickups and rings.....looks extremely comfortable as well......I would love to see Warmoth offer it as a route option as being a lover of hardtails I would definantly consider it...... should it be a route option...... It dosn't look overly complicated or out of range to install on my own, but its one of those things where if ya "f**k it up the bodies ruined...........
  ..........Cool Guitar :icon_thumright:

 

[Return of Guitlouie]

Finally!  Someone who has actually tried it giving us actual real feedback!  Better than all the " I think it would suck because of this or that".

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

There's nothing wrong with an educated guess or speculation.

 

[Return of Guitlouie]

Not at all!  But hearing from an actual user has it's place as well.