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exaN said:
Yeah I actually almost hooked up with a cousin I didn't even know about... BUUUT that's another story :laughing8:

Actually, the US is one of the few places that frowns on the practice, and it has nothing to do with possible genetic problems with the offspring, as is commonly thought, nor is it considered "incest" anywhere but here. Scientists have proven there's not an issue there at all. The myth in this country that inbreeding causes birth defects comes from associating a false cause/effect relationship between inbreeding and birth defects in England that were actually due to inherited genetic flaws passed along monarchial lines rather than the fact that the breeding pair were blood relatives. This ignorance was exploited for political reasons, and the various churches, being equally ignorant, propagated it.

Fact is, you can marry your cousin and have perfectly fine children. But, there's a social taboo on it here that isn't likely to be cleared up for some time. They're still working on the gay marriage thing, and that's easier for most people to take than the idea that you can marry your cousin.
 
Cagey said:
exaN said:
Yeah I actually almost hooked up with a cousin I didn't even know about... BUUUT that's another story :laughing8:

Actually, the US is one of the few places that frowns on the practice, and it has nothing to do with possible genetic problems with the offspring, as is commonly thought, nor is it considered "incest" anywhere but here. Scientists have proven there's not an issue there at all. The myth in this country that inbreeding causes birth defects comes from associating a false cause/effect relationship between inbreeding and birth defects in England that were actually due to inherited genetic flaws passed along monarchial lines rather than the fact that the breeding pair were blood relatives. This ignorance was exploited for political reasons, and the various churches, being equally ignorant, propagated it.

Fact is, you can marry your cousin and have perfectly fine children. But, there's a social taboo on it here that isn't likely to be cleared up for some time. They're still working on the gay marriage thing, and that's easier for most people to take than the idea that you can marry your cousin.

Yeah, but STILL :icon_tongue:
 
Cagey said:
exaN said:
Yeah I actually almost hooked up with a cousin I didn't even know about... BUUUT that's another story :laughing8:

Actually, the US is one of the few places that frowns on the practice, and it has nothing to do with possible genetic problems with the offspring, as is commonly thought, nor is it considered "incest" anywhere but here. Scientists have proven there's not an issue there at all. The myth in this country that inbreeding causes birth defects comes from associating a false cause/effect relationship between inbreeding and birth defects in England that were actually due to inherited genetic flaws passed along monarchial lines rather than the fact that the breeding pair were blood relatives. This ignorance was exploited for political reasons, and the various churches, being equally ignorant, propagated it.

Fact is, you can marry your cousin and have perfectly fine children. But, there's a social taboo on it here that isn't likely to be cleared up for some time. They're still working on the gay marriage thing, and that's easier for most people to take than the idea that you can marry your cousin.

I am with you to a point - there is little statistical likelihood of genetic defects proliferating when cousins procreate, provided that there is not a substantial history of consanguinous procreation in the family.  But many - not all, but not zero, either - of the genetic defects that were evident in the British and other monarchical lines was indeed due to inbreeding.  Great care was taken to ensure that marriage among the nobility was the rule, and that non-noble blood was excluded from the legitimate lines of succession.  In other words, the gene pool was restricted.

The same issues occur in the modern world where comparatively small populations have no new genetic material introduced - see, for example, the proliferation of harelip birth defects in remote villages in Peru and elsewhere.  So while I agree that the social taboo in the USA is far greater than the genetic danger of inbreeding, the danger is not nonexistent - it's just not statistically significant for most of us.

There is also the issue, of course, of American anti-monarchical sentiment giving rise to certain now-incomprehensible societal prohibitions on a panoply of behaviors, but I'll leave that to some other grad student to reduce to a dissertation.

Anyway, I like the OP's carvetop tele, and the sunburst with the ivory P90's is might pretty as well, although a bit brightly colored for my taste.

peace

Bagman

 
bagman67 said:
But many - not all, but not zero, either - of the genetic defects that were evident in the British and other monarchical lines was indeed due to inbreeding.  Great care was taken to ensure that marriage among the nobility was the rule, and that non-noble blood was excluded from the legitimate lines of succession.  In other words, the gene pool was restricted.

It depends on what you call a "defect". They certainly passed along familial traits, some of which may have been undesirable. Look at Prince What's-his-name - gotta be one of the ugliest buggers you've ever seen - but that's not necessarily a "defect". It's just unfortunate. An actual "defect" that got passed along for many generations was hemophilia, and that's been traced back to some queen or another. She and her offspring have been passing it along damn near ever since.
 
Cagey said:
exaN said:
Yeah I actually almost hooked up with a cousin I didn't even know about... BUUUT that's another story :laughing8:

Actually, the US is one of the few places that frowns on the practice, and it has nothing to do with possible genetic problems with the offspring, as is commonly thought, nor is it considered "incest" anywhere but here. Scientists have proven there's not an issue there at all. The myth in this country that inbreeding causes birth defects comes from associating a false cause/effect relationship between inbreeding and birth defects in England that were actually due to inherited genetic flaws passed along monarchial lines rather than the fact that the breeding pair were blood relatives. This ignorance was exploited for political reasons, and the various churches, being equally ignorant, propagated it.

Fact is, you can marry your cousin and have perfectly fine children. But, there's a social taboo on it here that isn't likely to be cleared up for some time. They're still working on the gay marriage thing, and that's easier for most people to take than the idea that you can marry your cousin.
So......you married your sister.... :icon_scratch:
 
DangerousR6 said:
So......you married your sister.... :icon_scratch:

Hehe! No, I don't have any sisters, and I'm not impressed with any of my cousins, regardless of gender. Of course, I'm not impressed with my ex-wives or girlfriends any more either. At this stage of my life, I think I've had just about enough of any kind of quasi-democratic lifestyle <grin>
 
Cagey said:
At this stage of my life, I think I've had just about enough of any kind of quasi-democratic lifestyle <grin>

haha. i'm in a healthy relationship, but i'm still with you man. I'm done with the conventions of what we call a "relationship" in this culture. it is what it is. you know someone, you do whatever it is you wish to do with them. nuff with labels, commitments, legal documents, public recognition.. who gives a ---
 
So what you're saying is that these two guitars shouldn't be having any kids??  Too bad, that is one hot tele!
 
Anyway, mission accomplished.  Finshed project pics posted in the tele gallery:

http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=13623.0
 
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