Steve Jobs Dead
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DangerousR6
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That's sad, and my condolences to his family, but I still don't like anything apple...sorry..
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True... :dontknow:Cagey said:
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Yes, 56 is way to young...
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I hate when people six weeks younger than me die...
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I have watched CNBC do a review on his life and I realized Steve Jobs vision is a large part of all of our lives, Apple, pads, windows, Ipad, and all of the tech we take for granted, He pushed till we could call it every day life
it is sad to see he has gone, the future is a stange place, I am glad he helped to direct us into where we are today,
A GREAT LOSS
it is sad to see he has gone, the future is a stange place, I am glad he helped to direct us into where we are today,
A GREAT LOSS
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People tend to forget his sidekick, Steve Wozniac, whom actually designed most of the earlier products he was credited for. He mostly was just the PR and fundraiser guy... :dontknow:
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Exactly. I'm typing this on my Macbook after having listened to my iPod and that was after I talked to my wife on my iPhone. Huge Mac fan here since 1991.
Steve you were a major league visionary. Major league change the world kind of person.
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If it were not for the vision, and the push to make it happen, Wozinac would have been working for some company making wigits.DangerousR6 said:
I agree he is great and did the major design, but Jobs made the world want the product, and as stated, we all use the products and clones of the products every day. Just think of a mp3 player, and what it would you be using 10 years ago, a walkman CD player.
As usual it's the synergy of different talents and interests that make any company/product/band etc truly groundbreaking.
I grew up using a Mac Classic, a Performa 400 and a Powermac 7200/90. My first own computer was a Powermac 4400/200 - I used that thing daily for 11 years! Currently I just use an iPhone 3GS, but I'm really tempted by the iMacs...
I'll miss Jobs. The business world needs its hippies!
I grew up using a Mac Classic, a Performa 400 and a Powermac 7200/90. My first own computer was a Powermac 4400/200 - I used that thing daily for 11 years! Currently I just use an iPhone 3GS, but I'm really tempted by the iMacs...
I'll miss Jobs. The business world needs its hippies!
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Not just its hippies, but its leaders. Design by committee rarely works out well. Apple succeeded because Jobs followed his instincts rather than a boardroom vote. Of course, that doesn't always work out well, either - look at Ballmer at Microsoft or Stringer at Sony or Obama at POTUS. How they keep their jobs is a mystery for the ages.
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Over the past year or so I have become an Apple fan (iPod, iPhone, iPad and finally a MacBook Pro). The products the SJ was responsible for have set the standard. It is going to be interesting to see if Apple continues to lead the way without him at the helm. Look back at Apple when they removed him in the early 90s. Apple didn't fair so well.
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IMO, they now make the best computers for personal use, thanks to Steve, mainly. He was a guiding force behind much of their turnaround, but realistically, I think they've been on a successful track without him for some time. He likely wasn't very involved for the last several iterations of their devices beyond giving a Keynote for releases. The poor guy just wasn't doing very good heath wise.
I'm thankful for the Apple approach to computers. I think it makes for the best overall technological experience. There machines are physically constructed the best out of any brand, there's no denying. They're built to last. (My best friend from high school still uses his 17" Macbook Pro that he got BEFORE THE IPOD EXISTED. His dad always jokes that some Apple stock would've been a better purchase in the long run . . .)
Whatever your feelings about OSX, it is undeniable that it is one of the best, next to Windows. Hey, it even lets you run Windows next to it if you need to. While Apple tends to be very selective surrounding third party applications, this filtration ensures a higher assurance of stable performance on the part of the whole system. Combine this with the fact that OSX is virtually virus free, and the robustness of their machines, and admittedly, you get a higher price tag . . . but IMO, its worth it.
Steve himself compared the iPhone 4 to an old Leica camera. Have you ever spent some real time with an iPhone 4? The feel is nothing short of amazing! I for one am glad that this is the main device marking the end of Jobs' legacy at Apple.
RIP Steve, I hope your ideas live on in the company you built for a long time to come.
I'm thankful for the Apple approach to computers. I think it makes for the best overall technological experience. There machines are physically constructed the best out of any brand, there's no denying. They're built to last. (My best friend from high school still uses his 17" Macbook Pro that he got BEFORE THE IPOD EXISTED. His dad always jokes that some Apple stock would've been a better purchase in the long run . . .)
Whatever your feelings about OSX, it is undeniable that it is one of the best, next to Windows. Hey, it even lets you run Windows next to it if you need to. While Apple tends to be very selective surrounding third party applications, this filtration ensures a higher assurance of stable performance on the part of the whole system. Combine this with the fact that OSX is virtually virus free, and the robustness of their machines, and admittedly, you get a higher price tag . . . but IMO, its worth it.
Steve himself compared the iPhone 4 to an old Leica camera. Have you ever spent some real time with an iPhone 4? The feel is nothing short of amazing! I for one am glad that this is the main device marking the end of Jobs' legacy at Apple.
RIP Steve, I hope your ideas live on in the company you built for a long time to come.
Cagey said:
Well said Cagey, I whole-heartedly agree. It's always good to have creative "free spirits" in the organization, but if there is no "leadership" and "vision" for everyone to rally behind, the organization becomes a mess. Without both leadership and a unifying vision, people end up working against each other rather than working together. In order for a leader to rally people behind his vision, he/she has to possess some amount of "charisma". None of these three elements works alone; in my opinion they must all be present in order for an enterprise to be successful. Ballmer, Stringer, and Obama seem to be missing one or more of these elements, which is probably why they're not doing so well.
kboman said:
Another well said statement. Steve Jobs had the requisite vision, leadership, and charisma, and had a cast of people around him who worked with him to make that vision a reality. I don't think Apple would be the Apple we know today if Steve Jobs was the only All Star on the roster and the rest of the employees were sub-par. That said, the man's vision was truly extraordinary. Only time will tell whether his successor has the vision, leadership, and charisma needed to keep the innovation wheel at Apple turning with a similar level of success.
I was very young when the first Apple Macs came out in the 80's with their monochrome screens and their one-button mice, and remember dabbling with one at the place where my father worked, and liking it very much. I remember they became quite popular with the desktop publishing crowd back in those days. There's no denying that Apple was (and still is) ahead of their competitors in terms of product design and user interface. Too bad I can't justify buying one now, plus I've grown too accustomed to Windows to move over to OS X.