Speaker recommendations - Ceriatone project

tfarny

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Hey amp gurus:
My Ceriatone shipped today and is expected at my house on my birthday next week. Pretty cool, huh. It's the 'ultra champ' - a blackface vibro champ, with a tone stack bypass (ie 'tweed') and triode switching options, all handwired and with JJ tubes for now. All I lack is the cabinet and a speaker. I plan to mount it on a board for the time being, play it through my 1x12 V30 cab, but eventually I'll need to build a combo cab and get a 1x10 speaker.

So, got any speaker recommendations? Anyone feel like building me a cabinet for fun and profit?
 

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tfarny said:
Hey amp gurus:
My Ceriatone shipped today and is expected at my house on my birthday next week. Pretty cool, huh. It's the 'ultra champ' - a blackface vibro champ, with a tone stack bypass (ie 'tweed') and triode switching options, all handwired and with JJ tubes for now. All I lack is the cabinet and a speaker. I plan to mount it on a board for the time being, play it through my 1x12 V30 cab, but eventually I'll need to build a combo cab and get a 1x10 speaker.

So, got any speaker recommendations? Anyone feel like building me a cabinet for fun and profit?

Always a big fan of Eminence.  They have a bazillion models - surely one has your name on it.
 

jimh

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I'd say an Alnico Celestion 10.  Pricey but great.

Eminence would be a great shout too, though I've never used one in person.
 

jackthehack

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Celestion G10 Vintages would definitely work. I did some mods on a '59 Bassman reissue for a guy and we trashed the stock speakers and used those, they rock.
 

Alfang

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Tfarny, Iv'e been looking at ceriatones website alot, and I wanna build an amp using their stuff,  I'd like to try a 59 bassman to start,

Anyway, keep us posted with your project, and what did you order, and how many more parts do you need to complete etc....
 

tfarny

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Thanks guys, nobody wants to build a cabinet for me, huh? Alf, I ordered the 'complete working chassis with tubes' - Pack 4, I think they call it. If it ends up fitting in my blackheart little giant head cab, I'll probably just leave it in there for the time being but eventually this will be a wicked combo, I imagine. I was also thinking about a 2x10 combo, who knows.

I'll post complete pics when it comes so you can check it out.
I'm not ready to build my own yet, I'm struggling to have time just to play guitar much less build an amp from scratch right now.
 

Alfang

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Hey, I checked out your Ultra Champ on the Ceriatone website, I like the looks and the price, the Harmony central review is outstanding, as is most Ceriatone stuff.

Tfarny,, buddy ole pal, this is your first baby step to building your own amp from scratch, and is exactly what I plan to do.

I bet if you built it all from scratch, you might save $100.00, maybe not, transformers and tubes would probably be over $150.00. You'd have to wanna do it for fun, not profit......hard to beat their price

I actually read somewhere on their site that if you wanna start your own boutique amp shop, they will work with you to put it together, of course they wanna sell you the parts,
 

jimh

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tfarny said:
Thanks guys, nobody wants to build a cabinet for me, huh?

Tfarny, I think Ceriatone offer cab packages also, dont they?  Although the website says its a 1x12, I'm sure if you spoke nicely to Nik, he could make it a 1x10 for you without much trouble.  He's a top bloke to deal with.
 

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I just bought an Eminence Beta-12A that I really like - for bass, guitar and steel. I like to run a trebly signal into bassy speakers though, and I don't like speaker distortion - this is more the Allman/Santana tone philosophy than the Page/Hendrix model. If you love AC/DC. you need a speaker that sounds like it's about to fart itself to death.... :dontknow:
 

tfarny

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The problem with buying cabs from them is you pay about $200 US in shipping for the cab - it would end up being a $500 cabinet, almost. I can definitely get something custom specced for less than that.
And yes Nik has been fantastic by email - replies right away with clear answers to any questions. I just wish his website were a lot more informative for his custom designs.

For the speaker, the last thing I want to sound like is an Angus Young fart (sorry Aussies  :tard:) - I want a clear singing tone with a rich bass. Actually I love the vintage 30 I'm using right now.
 

jimh

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tfarny said:
The problem with buying cabs from them is you pay about $200 US in shipping for the cab - it would end up being a $500 cabinet, almost. I can definitely get something custom specced for less than that.
And yes Nik has been fantastic by email - replies right away with clear answers to any questions. I just wish his website were a lot more informative for his custom designs.

Fair point.  Have a look at Mojotone.com  They do loads cabs of various flavours, and are based in US.  Maybe they could sort you out?
 

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For US cabs look at these too, most of them do custom work

http://www.trutonecustom.com/models.htm
http://www.jdesigncabs.com/PhotoGallery.htm
http://miyakodesigns.com/
https://www.stoneagecustomcabinets.com/home.php
http://www.swansoncabinets.com/
 

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My Deluxe Reverb has been rockin a Weber 12F150 for the last few years.  Much cleaner than the Jensen it came with.  Weber also does cabinets.

http://www.tedweber.com/
 

jackthehack

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Blue313 said:
My Deluxe Reverb has been rockin a Weber 12F150 for the last few years.  Much cleaner than the Jensen it came with.  Weber also does cabinets.

http://www.tedweber.com/

Personally I was never that impressed with that Weber series, the "Holy Grail" is really the JBL120F (or 10" equivalent maybe for the stated project). While the Weber AlNiCo Cali 10/12s are close approximates, they're so proud of them you can probably find old JBL baskets and get them refurb'ed/reconed for about the same coin....

We really have to find a Chinese manufacturer that will use child slave prison labor to knock off D120F speakers at a reasonable price....
 

Alfang

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So I'm sitting up at like 3:00 AM last....this morning and we got one of these crazy comercials comes on, some stereo warehouse slashing car audio components,  youv'e all heard em, subwoofers for 5 bucks , door speakers 9.95 while suplies last, on and on

Then," 600 watt car stereo amp, just 59 dollars,"  600 watts?  CB or Jack, what do we gotta do to these to plug a guitar in and push a 4x12 Cab? I'm sure theres way more ... hi-fidelity or whatever than a guitar needs but is there an interface to make those things work?
 

jackthehack

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Well, first of all, they're not really 600 watts it's more along the lines of this:

http://www.amazon.com/Dual-XPA4100-4-Channel-Audio-Amplifier/dp/B0009SWT20

Note that it says "It offers 50 watts of RMS power per channel at 4 ohms and 75 watts per channel at 2 ohms." and the "600 watts" is in some weird bridged setup no one's ever going use, and even the "50 watts" is "RMS power"; it's basically all bullsh*t. Oh, wait, here's another one cheaper with gold plated RCA inputs:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005Y6OX/ref=asc_df_B00005Y6OX924825?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B00005Y6OX

You COULD use one as a guitar amp, you could just mount it in a wooden box and hook up the input/outputs to a couple of jacks, but aren't you afraid you'll blow up your 4x12? You better buy 3 more 4x12s if you going to try to cook with one of these puppies...

Also, these are made to have a preamp of some sort and have fixed volume controls, so I guess you need to set the volumes to around 10 and use a volume pedal in your chain...
 

tfarny

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Alf, I'll put a full review here when I get time: http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=9646.0
 
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