Somebody found out how to get a 24 fret neck pickup to sound like a 22 fret

[t.coyle]

I was looking around a while ago at guitar builders and found one called Jet guitars. Anyways Ive read a lot about some people liking the sound of where a 22 fret neck pickup is placed compared to a 24. Anyways I was trying to decide which one I liked more and i knew I liked the 2 extra frets but I also liked the tone of the placement on a 22 fret guitar. Then I remembered that Jet guitars has a solution, instead of me explaining it ill just put a link.
http://www.jetguitars.com/endfret.html

I know it might not be possible on a bolt on guitar and you cant use a regular pickup ring, but I thought it was a pretty good solution for someone who wants a 24 fret neck with a 22 fret neck pickup sound

 

[Nando Vallart]

It's not about the pickup, it's about the natural harmonics you have on the 24th fret... I think this is the only way to do it, but it's a really hard thing to do...

The difference of 22 to 24 in playability is only felt to shredders... and if you shred, the tone is not really that big, with ultra skinny neck, lots of gain, etc...

 

[Mor Paul]

Well, if you fret, the harmonics move. Since you are looking at 24 fret necks, I'd guess you're not using this for open chords mostly  :laughing7:

 

[AutoBat]

i always forget that my neck position won't pull off the 5th fret harmonic (upon tapping the 12th fret). it works fine for neck/middle, middle, middle/bridge and bridge though.

 

[Cagey]

Well, if you fret, the harmonics move.

Stop confusing the issue with facts!  :icon_biggrin:

 

[koshersteel]

yes, it's true. when you fret the strings the locations of the nodes of the harmonic series will move but that is only part of the story. The arc of a vibrating string is widest (and therefore contains the richest harmonic content) at it's center whether it is fretted or not. Part of the reason bridge pickups cut through the mix so well is not just that they are hotter, but that they are also dealing with much more fundamental harmonic input. The furthur away from the bridge you move a pickup from the bridge the richer and fuller it will sound. That's why I'm a 22 fret guy.

mounting a pickup to the end of a neck is cute but unnecessary, just mount a pickup directly into the body without a humbucker ring.

 

[Dan025]

well the normal pickup location on a strat is actually a problem not an advantage. but who's counting. sure the farther you get from the bridge the warmer and fuller the tone as long as you are at a fret lower than 12 or 15 or where ever the pickup is at the center of the string but if thats important to you then how often are you using the 23rd & 24th frets?

it's a neat trick though mounting a fret at the end of the finger board and cramming the pickup right up next to it. i wonder how they faste that fret though, and why they use brass which is soft and not nickel silver or stainless to match the other frets? but where is the middle pickup to get some extra fullness at those upper most frets?

it seems to me that the 24 fret pickup location is a logical compromise, but i guess if you dont want to compromise you can spend custom guitar money for things like this. 

 

[Mor Paul]

If you fret at the 24th fret, wouldn't the sound be even more cutting on the neck pickup?

 

[erogenousjones17]

I don't understand any of what's going on in this thread...  :icon_scratch:

 

[t.coyle]

The neck pickup on the Jet guitar is actually mounted to the body not the neck, it has those 2 wooden pieces screwed on to hide the cavity. And it looks like the brass plate is held on by 3 screws, it is kinda weird that they used brass when the frets are nickel/silver.

Another solution I had found was when I was watching a video about Herman Li's(Dragonforce) Custom Ibanez and his custom had 24 frets but he wanted to have a 22 fret neck pickup placement sound so he had Dimarzio wind him a pickup that had the same tonality as the neck pickup from a 22 fret guitar he had and just wound it a bit warmer and fuller. That seems like a pretty good idea too.

I read an article from that Ed Roman site that said that 24 fret neck pickup placement was better than 22 because 22 fret neck pickup placement canceled out some harmonics. I know that guy kinda seems like a greasy car salesmen and not many people like him but at the same time it seemed like he had a point. But my understanding of it is that most guitar players in the past used that 22 fret neck pickup position so even if it does cancel some harmonics it still has a classic sound that some people want to get out of their guitar and a 24th fret neck pickup placement doesn't cut it(maybe its possible with some eq)

Also I don't really concentrate on one type of music so I play a little bit of everything. I know one guitar cant be the best at everything but you can at least make one to be pretty good at a few things. That's what I like about PRS's most of them are pretty versatile and sound pretty good at different styles of music. What I don't like about them is their price I mean they are really nice but they are mass produced guitars made with cnc machines, I would think it would cut some cost off but I guess they can charge what they charge and people still buy them so why not. I would have no problem paying that much for a custom but for something like that I couldn't really justify it, unless you buy used then that's a whole other story.

But anyways the point I was getting to is that I like a lot of features on guitars that most people would deem unnecessary. I'm just researching different options on guitars to possibly get a custom when I get the money. Thanks for the input guys :guitaristgif: