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Sacrificing TONE for ACTION?

jerryjg

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I just finalized an assmebly that had quite abit better tone with the strings higher. My blessing( or curse) is that I need as big a frets as possible and the action virtually laying down on the fretboard- the lowest possible action.
Cause of this, I've had to get rid of a few guitars that wouldnt come together liike that. It's also made me a better builder. Ive had to assemble every guitar to the nth degree to achieve the lowest of the low possible with the least possible string buzzing.
I got a few rare guiatr assemblies finished out so that the action is lower than humanly possible and I can still bend every string as much as possible -nearly without fret out and the low E doesnt barely buzz almost - to where  you are thinking the action is TOO low..then thats when I am done.
Ive succseeded on this with two builds- two of them were Warmoth. Also have two Jacksons I painstakeingly finally got right down to that "strings laying on the fretbaord-no buzz " action.
Theres also a penalty for tone.. you lose some when your action is that low.
I do have a couple of Starts that simply play themselves with the strings set abit higher, and also get some of that fuller tone that comes with the strings being higher . Thats an amazeing thing , and Im very glad I have a couple of great guiatrs like that also- they are just so perfect the palying is beyond effortless- its inspired!
 
I say build 'em with as low action as you like. If the action isnt to your liking then you wont be playing as well and your tone wont matter at all.  you could look to some other factor in your builds that might affect the tone as well like bridge and PU's.

Brian
 
If the action is too low, the high strings will get all tinny.  A good neck (W!) and a good setup go a long way...
 
Personally I just dont like having the action that low. Now, I wouldn't say I set mine 'high', either. But I do tend to play hard, so buzzes are wont to creep up on me...
 
If anyone needs anything lower than 1/16" @ the 12th fret, something's wrong with them...
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I personally like my action high - I like to have the guitar fighting me a bit.  And I also pound on it.

With my Rick 360/12 though, the action is low low low.  It does make a difference on the tone - to my ears it's not as loud in the midrange.
 
I set them up all differently, they've each got their own thing. The LP is my lowest action, and .010 strings. The thinline is in 'slide' mode with .012 - .056 and great big action. The strat gets typical strat action, and I'm about to try out some all-nickel .011s on it, old style.
 
Fender factory specs are buzzy as hell, at least on an instrument straight from the Fender Factory.... :icon_tongue: (P.9, PDF warning):

http://www.fender.com/support/manuals/pdfs/instr_owners/FenderGuitarsAndBasses2003.pdf

If the strings hits the fret ONCE - that very first clank when you pick it - it changes the tone significantly. Serious guitarists know exactly how to use this to change tone around, picking so that the string can both vibrate freely and clank when you want it to. Neither Eric Johnson or Steve Morse spend a lot of time "chicken-pickin", but in their teaching videos they go into a disproportionate amount of time explaining the process because that's where the juicies live. It's, like, totally groovy to just "set the action wherever it feels groovy, man" but it's also somewhat instructive to pay attention to how things work for other people, especially how things work for other people who can smoke your tits at playing guitar.

Jawohl, Mein Fuhrer, zee Action Nazi haff Spoke!




(where's the damn Hitler smiley when you need it?  :icon_scratch: grumble grumble.....)
 
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