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Rasmus by SUHR

Bruno

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All Rasmus guitars feature the following: (from Rasmus website)
- North American lightweight Alder body and Maple neck
- Suhr USA pickups made in the Suhr Factory in Lake Elsinore, California
- Gotoh 510 and Gotoh Floyd bridges made in Japan
- Fretwires made in Germany
- Plek fet-leveling job, final set-up and QC check in the Suhr Factory in Lake Elsinore, California

Price: $1,332.00
http://gallery.me.com/suhrguitars#101554

What's do you thing about this new brand *economy* suhr guitar?
In my opinion....no a great idea.

 
I'm not yet sold on the toasting/carbonizing yet.  However this economy model doesn't have any of the fancy Suhr bells and whistles.  For $1,332.00 and these features:
- North American lightweight Alder body and Maple neck
- Suhr USA pickups made in the Suhr Factory in Lake Elsinore, California
- Gotoh 510 and Gotoh Floyd bridges made in Japan
- Fretwires made in Germany
- Plek fet-leveling job, final set-up and QC check in the Suhr Factory in Lake Elsinore, California

...I can think of another place to spend that money.  The Plek thing, although perfect because done by a robot, old farts with bi-focals and files can get it good enough for 99.99% of folks.
 
exaN said:
Kyler (JamesL) said:
I still think those headstocks are ugly..

Yeah I'm with you on that one, everything looks good except the headstock :(


The only thing that I love in Rasmus guitar is the headstock
:icon_thumright: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

(together with pickups and tremolo bridge, of course. But, in any case, too expansive)
 
you know around here in Southern Ca. we consider Lake Elsinore and just about everything about it the DREGS OF THE WORLD. Nothing but meth heads and welfare recipients.. How could they make a quality guitar there?
 
You guys are a Suhr hatin' buncha fools, aintcha?  :toothy12:

I know everyone here would put the cash into building exactly what you want, but for someone who needs a great off-the-shelf instrument, these are going to be spectacular. They wouldn't be offering this line if it didn't live up to Suhr standards. I would bet big money these will smoke anything in their price range, which I think street will be about $1,000.

My Suhr Pro model is the absolute best bolt-on I have ever played or owned. And I love the headstock. So there. :icon_tongue:
 
Disco Scottie said:
You guys are a Suhr hatin' buncha fools, aintcha?  :toothy12:

I know everyone here would put the cash into building exactly what you want, but for someone who needs a great off-the-shelf instrument, these are going to be spectacular. They wouldn't be offering this line if it didn't live up to Suhr standards. I would bet big money these will smoke anything in their price range, which I think street will be about $1,000.

My Suhr Pro model is the absolute best bolt-on I have ever played or owned. And I love the headstock. So there. :icon_tongue:

So....you are happy they are taking a project they were originally going to try and kick off in the USA but instead took it to some Asian country? Which country is getting this business btw, not exactly spelt out in the website? The question to Suhr, however, should be : WHY?

Suhr enjoy a great reputation with custom guitar level electric guitars, and this venture, if not managed properly could really backfiire on them and bring them grief. There are so many entry level guitars around, is there really a need for another brand? And what experience does Suhr have at mass production on such a scale AND making guitars to build for budget?
 
Disco Scottie said:
I would bet big money these will smoke anything in their price range, which I think street will be about 771.55€ (771.55€ ($1,000.))


1050-1100Euro
For a made in china.
I don't think ...


p.s:
I've a CUSTOM classic suhr.
A **REAL suhr**  :headbang1:
 
OzziePete said:
Disco Scottie said:
You guys are a Suhr hatin' buncha fools, aintcha?  :toothy12:

I know everyone here would put the cash into building exactly what you want, but for someone who needs a great off-the-shelf instrument, these are going to be spectacular. They wouldn't be offering this line if it didn't live up to Suhr standards. I would bet big money these will smoke anything in their price range, which I think street will be about $1,000.

My Suhr Pro model is the absolute best bolt-on I have ever played or owned. And I love the headstock. So there. :icon_tongue:

So....you are happy they are taking a project they were originally going to try and kick off in the USA but instead took it to some Asian country? Which country is getting this business btw, not exactly spelt out in the website? The question to Suhr, however, should be : WHY?

Suhr enjoy a great reputation with custom guitar level electric guitars, and this venture, if not managed properly could really backfiire on them and bring them grief. There are so many entry level guitars around, is there really a need for another brand? And what experience does Suhr have at mass production on such a scale AND making guitars to build for budget?

Not sure what you mean about "try and kick off in in the USA"... the Rasmus line was an overseas product (China to be exact) from the get-go. Perhaps you're confusing them with the Pro series, which are regular Suhr models with limited options. I own and love one.

I doubt there will be a problem with the management of the line. They're not looking to pump out $99 Squiers. At $1,000 I don't consider it an "entry level" instrument. If the QC is what I expect, these will be a fantastic gateway guitar into the world of Suhr. And it's not like most other manufacturers where you get a cheaper model and have to upgrade hardware/electronics, these are coming equipped with the goods.

Of course, I haven't actually played one yet, so I'm just blowing air right now. I'll let someone with more intimate knowledge take over... here's what Pete Thorn had to say about them over at The Gear Page:

so awhile back I was visiting the Suhr factory, and Ed handed me a Modern, and asked me what I thought- I played it for a few minutes, and it was exceptional, felt like a typical Suhr guitar to me. Then he explained it was a sample, one of the protos for what's become the Rasmus line....

Well, first off, I was surprised- I had many of the same thoughts/questions/concerns as many of you. But I was holding this guitar, and it was essentially flawless. I mean, one of my concerns was actually how would this line affect sales of the regular Suhrs, because the guitar felt and played and looked so damn good. Flawless finish, perfect frets (makes sense, since the Suhr guys had done the whole setup). Obviously tight tolerances.

So we talked for a long while, and I brought up many things like what had happened to the Charvel/Jackson and Kramer lines in the 80's, etc. And Ed basically answered all of my questions, I didn't realize just how much experience and background he has dealing with Asian guitar factories, he really knows his stuff. He explained to me that with many of these companies in the 80's and 90's it was just about bottom line and expanding as fast as possible, and that they'd be raking in cash and living high on the hog, and maybe 1000 guitars would show up on the dock from Asia and the quality would be sub par, and that the bean counters would just send em out, instead of returning them. The Suhr guys clearly want nothing to do with that sort of b.s.- I don't know anyone more concerned with quality than John- so trust me he gets it, there's really no way he'd put his name on something if it wasn't up to snuff. Like, he wouldn't be able to sleep at night anymore. He just wouldn't do it. So whatever Ed has sorted out as far as a factory goes, I'll tell you, this guitar I played felt just exceptional.

As far as demographic, from what Ed told me they are aiming for the dudes that would normally be buying the Ibanez, the Schecter, the guys on the Petrucci forum that really would love a Suhr but can't (til now) afford it. Young guys or guys on a budget playing modern rock, metal, shred, etc.- hence the H-S-S and H-S-H pickup layouts, floyds, Modern body shape etc.

So that's my take on it. Pick one up and play it before you worry too much about anything else- honestly, Ed handed me this guitar, I didn't know, literally had no idea I wasn't playing a US made Modern when I played it, until he told me- so I guess that in of itself is an endorsement.
 
Disco Scottie said:
Not sure what you mean about "try and kick off in in the USA"... the Rasmus line was an overseas product (China to be exact) from the get-go.

BEFORE it became a Rasmus project in China they obviously wanted to produce a line of guitars to a budget price.....here's a quote from the Rasmus website..:

We looked at many options at lowering the cost here in our US factory like we did with the popular Pro Series instruments, but we came to see that it's simply not possible to hit a certain price point without working with an outside manufacturing source based in Asia. The goal became to produce the best possible quality guitars at a lower price point that more serious players can afford — not to produce larger quantities of imported instruments that merely look like Suhr guitars.


SOURCE: http://www.rasmusguitars.com/


Who is this 'Ed' that Thorn is taking the info from? Is Thorn an endorsed artist for Suhr? Link to story?
 
Just to clarify for everyone:
- the price of rasmus is 1050-1100euro, not 750euro (from guitar guitar uk)
- rasmus guitars are *made in china* as printed on the back of the headstock

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OzziePete said:
Disco Scottie said:
Not sure what you mean about "try and kick off in in the USA"... the Rasmus line was an overseas product (China to be exact) from the get-go.

BEFORE it became a Rasmus project in China they obviously wanted to produce a line of guitars to a budget price.....here's a quote from the Rasmus website..:

We looked at many options at lowering the cost here in our US factory like we did with the popular Pro Series instruments, but we came to see that it's simply not possible to hit a certain price point without working with an outside manufacturing source based in Asia. The goal became to produce the best possible quality guitars at a lower price point that more serious players can afford — not to produce larger quantities of imported instruments that merely look like Suhr guitars.


SOURCE: http://www.rasmusguitars.com/


Who is this 'Ed' that Thorn is taking the info from? Is Thorn an endorsed artist for Suhr? Link to story?

Going by what you quoted, the initial idea to build in the US was part of the early planning for the project, and thus it wasn't public knowledge at the time. Kinda like an early draft for a screenplay... of course things are going to change as you move forward. Your first post made it sound like they had announced Rasmus was going to be built here, and then changed their minds.

The Ed being mentioned is Ed Yoon, Marketing/Sales/Customer Services Director for Suhr. And yes, Pete is an endorser... with his talent he could get a deal with any company he wanted, so it's says a lot that he's with Suhr. There's also some guy by the name of Govan who plays them, not sure if he's any good.  :laughing7:

Here's the link to the original post.
 
Bruno said:
Just to clarify for everyone:
- the price of rasmus is 1050-1100euro, not 750euro (from guitar guitar uk)
- rasmus guitars are *made in china* as printed on the back of the headstock

m100d.jpg

Yep, I already mentioned they're coming from China. And as for the price, you're wrong... there are four of them on eBay right now, all with a Buy It Now price of $999 with free shipping.
 
Jusatele said:
you know around here in Southern Ca. we consider Lake Elsinore and just about everything about it the DREGS OF THE WORLD. Nothing but meth heads and welfare recipients.. How could they make a quality guitar there?

WTF?!?! Are you serious? It's not the meth heads are the ones building the guitars. And welfare recipients, really? Just because a person needs some help doesn't make them worthless or a loser or disqualify them from being a good guitar builder (or whatever the hell your pompus judgemental high and mighty comments were implying). For you to make a comment like that shows your effed up mentality. The guitars are awesome and the community where they are built really isn't even a relevant factor in the quality of the product. :dontknow:
 
Disco Scottie said:
And as for the price, you're wrong... there are four of them on eBay right now, all with a Buy It Now price of 774.24€ ($999) with free shipping.

My friend ..
Usually we ALSO pay taxes (20% VAT and 4% DAZIO - import tax - )
So the price is €1050/1100, beyond any possible discussion  :sad:
 
Bruno said:
Disco Scottie said:
And as for the price, you're wrong... there are four of them on eBay right now, all with a Buy It Now price of 774.24€ ($999) with free shipping.

My friend ..
Usually we ALSO pay taxes (20% VAT and 4% DAZIO - import tax - )
So the price is €1050/1100, beyond any possible discussion  :sad:

Ah, I wasn't thinking about that. Unfortunately they will cost more for you. I would be happy to buy one, and you can come play it any time you like!  :glasses10:
 
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