Question about coilsplit.

[The Norwegian Guy]

I was planning to build a HSS strat.
But when I went to bed last night I thought that a HSH with coilsplit in both neck and bridge would be kewl.
I want to use Seymour Duncan Pearly gates in both neck and bridge, and wonder if they are "splittable".

was thinking something like a regular pickguard with a miniswitch that split both of the humbuckers so I can go directly from HSH to SSS.


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Andreas

 

[dbw]

Yep, you can do this no problem.  Follow the standard SD wiring diagram.  Then take a mini DPDT switch; the contacts look like this:

1 2
3 4
5 6

Solder the red and white wires from one pickup to 1, the red and white wires from the other pickup to 2, and solder 3 and 4 together and to ground.

You should know that a split humbucker is not as good as a single coil, though.  Your middle position will probably sound better than your neck position when split.

 

[tfarny]

easy to do. I don't think a pearly gates sounds very good split though - it sounds like a cheap squire pickup to me - flat and weak. I think the SD Jazz can split well in a neck pickup though, and that's a great pickup.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

I think I understand!  :blob7: :blob7:
Something like this?

A B
C D
E F

(letters instead of numbers because I found a random pic on google with the letters)

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

Which pickups do you reccomend for coilsplitting besides the S.Dcn. Jazz?
I'm not actually sure about the pearly gates yet. I've tried my cousins Les Paul with pearly gates in it, and liked the sound.

 

[tfarny]

I think you should just get the humbuckers that you like the best, and treat the coil split as just one little bonus. If you really want a single coil sound you've got to get a single coil in my experience. Fralin and Rio Grande both make HBs that are designed to sound good split, but I have no idea if they sound good 'normal' or not.

 

[dbw]

I think I understand!  :blob7: :blob7:
Something like this?

A B
C D
E F

(letters instead of numbers because I found a random pic on google with the letters)

Yep  :icon_thumright:

And +1 to what tfarny said.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

Great!
Thanks for answers guys!
I guess I have to try a couble of different HB's :icon_thumright:
I really like this forum!
It is more or less impossible to get a descent answer in any of the norwegian guitarforums!
Kudos to all of ya!

 

[line6man]

Yep, you can do this no problem.  Follow the standard SD wiring diagram.  Then take a mini DPDT switch; the contacts look like this:

1 2
3 4
5 6

Solder the red and white wires from one pickup to 1, the red and white wires from the other pickup to 2, and solder 3 and 4 together and to ground.

Thats if you want the north coils on both pickups...
I think its a better idea to either use the outer coils, or the inner coils.

If you want outer coils:

Neck pickup:
Black to hot.
White and Red together, to terminal 1.
Green to terminal 3, and also to ground.

Bridge pickup:
Black to terminal 4, and also to hot
White and Red together to terminal 2.
Green to ground.

If you want inner coils:

Bridge pickup:
Black to hot.
White and Red together, to terminal 1.
Green to terminal 3, and also to ground.

Neck pickup:
Black to terminal 4, and also to hot
White and Red together to terminal 2.
Green to ground.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

by hot, you mean the pickupswitch?
and by terminal, you mean the DPDT?

 

[line6man]

by hot, you mean the pickupswitch?
and by terminal, you mean the DPDT?

Yes, "to hot" means to the pickup selector.
I usually refer to pickups as hot and ground because sometimes i dont know where the pickup will connect to, so its easier to just refer to them as being a hot or a ground connection.

by terminal, i am referring to the terminals on the DPDT switch.

 

[GoDrex]

To me the Jazz in the neck position sounds great split - especially with a clean tone. At least it does on my guitar. I don't split the bridge pickup too often, though it sounds pretty good with medium kind of gain, for a thinner rock or blues tone. I've found that one of the more interesting uses for coil splitting is in combination with out of phase settings. One humbucker spilt while the other is not can really change the tone dramatically - if you enjoy that sort of sound - which I do.

 

[Jommit]

I really like this forum!
It is more or less impossible to get a descent answer in any of the norwegian guitarforums!
Kudos to all of ya!

Enig

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

Du har vel ikke vært innom gitarnorge?

Thanks for the help guys!
Really appreciated!

 

[GoDrex]

here's some sound clips so you can here what a SD Jazz sounds like split, with a clean tone. Forgive the rushed and sloppy "Zoot Allures" - I just like the sound of those chords.

http://www.wfzr.net/aud/lp-jazz-normal.mp3 - SD Jazz normal

http://www.wfzr.net/aud/lp-jazz%20split.mp3 - SD Jazz split

and for comparison:

http://www.wfzr.net/aud/strat-neck%20.mp3 - Fender Hot Noiseless neck

http://www.wfzr.net/aud/strat-neck+middle.mp3 - Fender Hot Noiseless neck& middle.

I didn't change the settings on the amp at all.

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

Thanks for the samples, dude!

 

[The Norwegian Guy]

I am thinking about fitting the DPDT switch in the T2 hole on a rear routed Strat body.
Is this possible?
What is the dimension of a T2 hole and can I make a DPDT switch fit?

I have tried to find it out on warmoth.com, but I can't find it any places.

 

[dbw]

L6M, the wiring I gave taps to the outside coils, because one pickup is upside down.  Your wiring is for one screw, one slug, which is not inside/outside.  I do agree that one screw, one slug is better!  :rock-on:

 

[dbw]

I am thinking about fitting the DPDT switch in the T2 hole on a rear routed Strat body.
Is this possible?
What is the dimension of a T2 hole and can I make a DPDT switch fit?

I have tried to find it out on warmoth.com, but I can't find it any places.

The holes for knobs are 3/8".  What switch do you want to use? 

 

[line6man]

L6M, the wiring I gave taps to the outside coils, because one pickup is upside down.  Your wiring is for one screw, one slug, which is not inside/outside.  I do agree that one screw, one slug is better!   :rock-on:

Ok, i reread the original post, and it looks like the same pickup will be used for both the neck and bridge pickup, rather than a neck and bridge set. So one pickup is indeed upside down.

So i guess that your wiring is correct for this particular instance.

Sorry about that, i guess i should have read the post better  :doh: