plecked guitars

TRG

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I bought a epi eiltist lp. Got it from the music gallary in chigago. They have one of the new Pleck machines. So had them pleck it. what a great set up. plays great.
 

mayfly

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JamesL said:
Plecked???

It's a new funky-ass automated fret leveling tool that simulates string tension on the neck while leveling.  It's pretty groovy, but expensive.  It's also large - it looks like you put your guitar into a metal/plexiglass closet then press a button.

I hear Dan Erlewine has one.

 
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OzziePete

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While obviously a great advancement in setting up guitars, I wonder if anyone would be game enough to put a D'Angelico or some other near priceless instrument in that plexi cabinet and 'press the button'? You'd wanna make sure the computers running the thing are running smoothly, eh? :doh:

Gibson advertise that they now do this on their new guitars.
 

MicahC

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I heard they got the plek machine because the quality control was kinda goin' downhill for a while.
 

-CB-

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1. Its not all its cracked up to be.
2. It is VERY operator dependent.  The machine is, as all are, stupid as a one legged crow in a squaredance.  The operator has to really know his neck/guitar geometry in order to make it work right.
3. It is also VERY dependent on the correct, and totally immobile mounting of the guitar in the cradle - something that takes some doing.  That is - when you try to get things set up to say .002 or .001 inches... even temperature and humidity play hell on what you're doing.  So do the very least of movement, even movement caused by the vibration of the machine itself.

What this all means is... in "theory" it can do wonders, especially with crowning.  In practice, its really no better than someone with a bit of knowledge and practice can do - assuming real world working tolerances. 

And remember, it does the fret tops.  It has no control on the fretBOARD, and its straightness (or wavy-ness). 

The PLEK machine, in the hands of someone who REALLY REALLY knows their stuff, would be pretty good.  Any shop who forks out the bucks and thinks they can say "we have a PLEK, so we're good!"  is full of prunes.  They gotta be good first.  The Plek just makes it easier to be good.

Its like CNC.  When I was back in the gun biz.... and we'd convert 1911 frames to accept "whale tail" grip safeties (which I hate with a passion), there were places saying they did a better job, because they cut the frames on a CNC mill.  I can tell you, they didn't do a better job, because the variation in frames is such that they still had to go back and "fix" the work the CNC machine gave them, and the fixes were obvious.  OTOH, I fit all mine by hand, one at a time, and the results were such that it all fit together quite nicely and it didn't look like a one-size-fits-all job.

Don't shop the process guys.  Shop the RESULTS.  What you want is the end result.  If its good, it matters not how it got that way.  Thing is, a good man can correct things, see things, measure things... the PLEK machine wont pick up.  Get yerself a good man to work with, and if he has a PLEK, and can use it... great.  But if his hands are his tools, thats great too.

On a final note - the PLEK to me, is like the modern player piano, digitally controlled, and perfect in many ways, and totally devoid of soul.  It still sounds like a machine.  Nothing beats the real thing, and the life that hands give to the performance.

And thats that.

 

TRG

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CB is right of course. as with anything high tec its only as good as the operator. My under standing is the guy at the music gallery that runs ithas been doing complete setups and fret work for 30 some years. That when they bought the machine he had some real doubts it good do a better job then he was already doing. But after training he is a beliver. Its just like when construction first started using laser leveling equipment, I was an aperintice carpenter. Alot of the old guys had a hard time beliving.
 

Wana_make_a_guitar

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i've come to a conclusion about pleck for myself. It's A Rip Off.  It costs 179 bucks for the removal of .05 grams of nickel dust.  :(
 
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