Orange amps for METAL?

[haceteunosmates]

Lately I've seen more and more metalcore/emocore bands turn to Orange heads. It's weird because I never thought they'd fit in that kind of music. I mean, sure, you could really push it with a pedal, but then what's the point?

Is there any reason Oranges are being used more for metal lately? Or are they just a bunch of idiots with enough money to afford them?  :-\

 

[bagman67]

Orange figured prominently in Sabbath's backline way back when.

 

[SustainerPlayer]

They (Orange) sound good?!  :dontknow:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

I could've sworn Iommi was a Laney guy, as they were made in his hometown.

Oranges have a ballsy scooped mid tone, I would guess.

 

[Cagey]

Iommi has used Laneys on and off throughout his career, and I think there's even a signature version of one now. But, as with most professional players, that wasn't an exclusive piece of gear. He's used several different models of Marshalls along the way, depending on the situation, as well as some Orange stuff. Last time I saw him was back in the '70s, and I think he was using Marshalls then. Hard to see through all the pot smoke, though...

As I recall, in those days the Laneys were sort of a second string Marshall. What you bought if you couldn't afford the real thing, but wanted to sound as if you could or wanted more concert-size amps than you'd otherwise be able to afford. They never really took off like the Marshalls did because while they sounded good, they were inconsistent and unreliable. Not that any tube amp is particularly reliable, but these were scary to the point where hot spares were a way of life.

 

[crash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C43snhZns_A

Paranoid video at 2:20

 

[thebutcher85]

Oranges have a ballsy scooped mid tone, I would guess.

Negative, Orange amps are known for their Midrange; that's exactly what gives them their ballziness! They're also known for having lots of low end, and a more "fuzzy" (Not fizzy) high end, Orange has their own unique sound.

Lately I've seen more and more metalcore/emocore bands turn to Orange heads. It's weird because I never thought they'd fit in that kind of music. I mean, sure, you could really push it with a pedal, but then what's the point?

Is there any reason Oranges are being used more for metal lately? Or are they just a bunch of idiots with enough money to afford them?  :-\

1. You do NOT need a pedal to push most Orange amps for metal, almost every model has plenty of gain on tap already, people just don't know how to dial in their amps haha!

2. Orange amps sound fantastic, I've got a rocker30, a Tiny Terror, and the new micro Terror, and every single one will get super heavy & nasty without being pushed by an OD pedal for extra gain. People are using Orange more because they sound freakin' amazing for ANY genre of music. Go try some out!  ccasion14:

 

[dmraco]

I have an Orange Dual terror.  This sucker has SO much gain that there is no reason why is cannot play metal.  The tone is more classic on the dual terror but the Rockerverb simply will melt your face off.  They are a VERY verstilie amp.

 

[Jeremiah]

2. Orange amps sound fantastic, I've got a rocker30, a Tiny Terror, and the new micro Terror, and every single one will get super heavy & nasty without being pushed by an OD pedal for extra gain. People are using Orange more because they sound freakin' amazing for ANY genre of music. Go try some out!  ccasion14:

I'd be interested to hear what you think  of the Micro Terror for clean and low-gain "just breaking up" tones and how much clean headroom it has. I'm interested in this amp because it's both cheap and light, but most reviews and demos focus on the overdrive sounds.

I'd be using it with a 1x10 or 1x12 rather than the 1x8 cabinet that Orange make to go with it.

 

[swarfrat]

Metal is perhaps differentiated from hard rock more in image and mixing  than actual sonic or musical differences. Nearly any master volume amp since 1978 has had enough gain to play metal, so this doesn't really shock me at all.

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Negative, Orange amps are known for their Midrange; that's exactly what gives them their ballziness! They're also known for having lots of low end, and a more "fuzzy" (Not fizzy) high end, Orange has their own unique sound.

Agreed about their own unique sound.  My main experiences are a bandmate with a newer TH 30 and corresponding 412 cab.  I've been able to tool around with it extensively on PAF'd Les Paul.  Though it can get a boosted mid tone, the scooped mid sound seemed easier to achieve.  The "shape" knob on the 2nd channel, all it did was scoop the mids.  When you see them on a stage at a metal show, that shape knob is most certainly doing a full scoop.  Couple that with the boosted mid Strat crowd rarely uses them for that blues sound, though it can be done.  Mayer and Bonamasa, though unaware of them using Orange, prefer a less boosted mid blues tone.  I've seen a Th 30 take the Tele sound out of a Tele.  Vox they are not, that's for sure.

 

[Strat Avenger]

I have a friend who has a Orange Rockerverb-100.  It has tons of gain, and it actually produces more mids than he likes (although I think it's the Vintage-30 speakers he's using).
Definitely not a "scooped" tone.

 

[thebutcher85]

2. Orange amps sound fantastic, I've got a rocker30, a Tiny Terror, and the new micro Terror, and every single one will get super heavy & nasty without being pushed by an OD pedal for extra gain. People are using Orange more because they sound freakin' amazing for ANY genre of music. Go try some out!  ccasion14:

I'd be interested to hear what you think  of the Micro Terror for clean and low-gain "just breaking up" tones and how much clean headroom it has. I'm interested in this amp because it's both cheap and light, but most reviews and demos focus on the overdrive sounds.

I'd be using it with a 1x10 or 1x12 rather than the 1x8 cabinet that Orange make to go with it.

Dude, it's fantastic, I was actually blown away with how great the micro terror is, it's really dynamic, it's not going to do a completely sparkly fender-type clean, but it has a better clean tone than the Tiny Terror. The micro T is actually 20watts, (tube preamp, with SS output) its a fantastic little amp, and only $149! I play mine through an epiphone valve jr 1x12 cab loaded with a celestion "relic 30" (different than a V30, no harsh spike). It's fantastic! Super portable, and I now take it to rehearsal and plug into my 4x12 and it can totally keep up with our drummer (and he hits hard!) (granted, we are a 3-piece rock outfit and I'm the only guitarist, but it keeps up for rehearsal no problem! I wouldn't be afraid to gig with it mic'd up either)

Anyway, I don't mean to gush about it, but it's the coolest new piece of gear that has surprised me in along time! The low-mid gain tones are amazing also, you won't believe your ears that it's not fully tube, it's super responsive and dynamic, it responds to your pick attack and volume/tone controls just like a full tube amp does. (I was jamming the other day and my buddy came over and came into my music room and thought he had heard me playing the Rocker, he was blown away at the tones I was getting from the Micro)

I highly recommend it, takes pedals well, loud enough for practice/rehearsal/small gigs, and is super dynamic & responsive. I totally think it would suit your needs with the right cab/speaker.  :headbang: ccasion14:

 

[haceteunosmates]

I didn't know they had so much gain. I also thought they were not the kind of amps to play metal.. Just like you wouldn't buy a Bogner to play Flamenco  :laughing7: You wouldn't, right?  :sad1:

I've always associated them with low gain music, roughly hard rock at most, and if I had one I guess I'd use it for cleans/overdrive.. But seems like I'd be missing a lot then!

 

[Tempest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpZoWsFlJQ

 

[fdesalvo]

My ex guitarrist used a Rockerverb 100.  TeH Brootalz for heavy detuned stuff.  Didn't fit our format lol!