Olive Drab Meadowhawk w/Gotoh 510

[aarontunes]

Is that this?

https://www.allparts.com/products/ep-4923-deep-round-nut-for-toggle-switches

Yep!

 

[aarontunes]

Interesting, can you show pics to demonstrate what you're talking about? I'm always on the lookout for a new detail to obsess over, and sadly I'm not kidding.

Found the Black Gold video segment where I talk about it (starts at 13:28):

 

[ruscio]

Found the Black Gold video segment where I talk about it (starts at 13:28):

Thanks for finding the video + location.

I checked my two guitars with 3-way toggles, and the one installed at the factory by Ibanez looks good (black tip), but the one on a parts guitar (white tip) now looks a bit odd. It doesn't appear to be proud of the body by any more than the black tipped-switch, but the thinner nut leaves some of the threading exposed. It's just not as clean a look. I hadn't noticed this before and now I can't unsee it. I hope you're happy, sir!

 

[aarontunes]

Thanks for finding the video + location.

I checked my two guitars with 3-way toggles, and the one installed at the factory by Ibanez looks good (black tip), but the one on a parts guitar (white tip) now looks a bit odd. It doesn't appear to be proud of the body by any more than the black tipped-switch, but the thinner nut leaves some of the threading exposed. It's just not as clean a look. I hadn't noticed this before and now I can't unsee it. I hope you're happy, sir!

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[Scab Pickens]

I found an acceptable "not too pretty" neck to go with the "not too pretty" olive drab body. Actually, I think the body is beautiful. I just didn't want to (okay, I really wanted too ... but, held myself back ) put a super crazy neck on such a basic body.

I had a Vintage/Modern Wolfgang with 1-3/4" nut, roasted flame maple with figured unique choice Ziricote fretboard in the cart and had to step back. I just can't wait that long! I can always replace the neck later, if desired.

Anyway, this will be the neck ...

 

[rauchman]

A little more progress on this project ...

The copper shielding job is complete. It was an interesting adventure, for sure. I struggled at first but got my technique down better towards the end. Used 12"x10" sheet and 2" tape from Philadelphia Luthier (conductive adhesive).

Also pressed in the bridge studs. This was one of my biggest fears, as I had never done it before. It went amazingly well. Used a 3/16"x1-1/2" dowel pin in a drill press. Straight and smooth!

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The bridge looks great, as well. Very massive and solid feeling. I decided to go for a little custom "bling" with the toggle switch ring (also from Philadelphia Luthier).

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Time to start wiring up the toggle switch ...

Wow! Very cool

If "W" releases these for general sale, I'm looking at my next guitar build. Really cool!

 

[Scab Pickens]

Progress report ...

I got the 3-way toggle switch wired up and installed. Was planning on using the novelty "Chill/Vibes" chrome backing ring, but ultimately decided it was just too much. Looks a bit more refined without it. Also got the recessed switch nut dialed in by using the standard flat nut as an internal spacer to put the shaft threads just below (and out of sight) from the front view.





Did a temporary fitting of the pots so I could get the spacer stack just right in order to have barely any space between the control knob bottoms and the body surface. This photo gives a bit more of an educated guess about how the finished product will look. The thin chrome pickup rings are from Warmoth. The chrome dome knobs were discovered in the "parts bin" - a wrong purchase at the time, but useful now!



I also got the "OUT"put jack giggle wired up and ready. Still need to drill pilot holes for the pickup rings and jack plate.

Also ordered the Gotoh locking tuners. I really just want to try something different. I love the Schaller lockers. I'll decide after the neck arrives if I will end up using them.

Need to install the strap buttons, too. I have some of the oversized Gotoh buttons that I am leaning towards. I typically do the Schaller strap lock setup. Still undecided on that one.

 

[Scab Pickens]

Slowly, but surely ...

I got the neck and tuners. I ordered individual tuners from Philadelphia Luthier because I wanted to try the "ex-long" on the low string. Gotoh must have changed the color on the back side locking nut at some point. The ex-long is a goldish color and the rest (two long and three short) are a dark brownish color. It doesn't bother me since this isn't a "show" guitar. The neck fits in the pocket perfectly. The tuners also fit perfectly in the "Schaller/Modern Fender/Sperzel (25/64")" holes with no modification needed.





The bridge, jack plate, and strap buttons are installed. Wiring is complete. Going to wait on drilling the pickup ring screw holes until after I mount the neck and put on some strings so I can try to get the pickup pole pieces aligned as evenly as possible. I hope to have this thing operational enough to do an initial setup by this weekend.

 

[aarontunes]

Slowly, but surely ...

I got the neck and tuners. I ordered individual tuners from Philadelphia Luthier because I wanted to try the "ex-long" on the low string. Gotoh must have changed the color on the back side locking nut at some point. The ex-long is a goldish color and the rest (two long and three short) are a dark brownish color. It doesn't bother me since this isn't a "show" guitar. The neck fits in the pocket perfectly. The tuners also fit perfectly in the "Schaller/Modern Fender/Sperzel (25/64")" holes with no modification needed.

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The bridge, jack plate, and strap buttons are installed. Wiring is complete. Going to wait on drilling the pickup ring screw holes until after I mount the neck and put on some strings so I can try to get the pickup pole pieces aligned as evenly as possible. I hope to have this thing operational enough to do an initial setup by this weekend.

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Nice wiring work!

 

[aarontunes]

I got the 3-way toggle switch wired up and installed. Also got the recessed switch nut dialed in by using the standard flat nut as an internal spacer to put the shaft threads just below (and out of sight) from the front view.

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This is the way.

You nailed it: you have to use the regular as the spacer, then the recessed nut. Now that you know, go out into the world and spread the good news.

I congratulate you on your correct choice of locking tuners as well.

 

[Scab Pickens]

Nice wiring work!

Thanks! It was a challenge for an amateur "electrician". I've only done one other project from scratch (my Diamondback). The other three Telecaster style builds I cheated with pre-wired harnesses.

You nailed it: you have to use the regular as the spacer, then the recessed nut. Now that you know, go out into the world and spread the good news.

No way, man! This is an industry secret.

I congratulate you on your correct choice of locking tuners as well.

We'll see. I love the Schaller lockers, but everything else on this build is Gotoh so I thought I'd go that direction with the tuners as well. I have Gotoh locking tuners on my ESP E-II "full thickness" Eclipse that do just fine, so I don't think I'll be disappointed .

I appreciate the kind words, Aaron .

 

[Don O]

I have this same meme pic from years ago but the text is:

“Girl Scouts,
Next time maybe you’ll buy the f#cking cookies”

 

[Scab Pickens]

I just thought I'd wrap this topic up with a photo of the finished product ...



I'm curious about what types of builds the folks who purchased the other two of these bodies have in the works.

 

[scottp]

Looking good so far!

Pro tip: be sure to get a switchcraft 3-way switch with the "recess" nut, and use it. It will make the build look much more "pro". One of my pet peeves is 3-ways that stand too proud off the body.

Word!!

 

[scottp]

Progress report ...

I got the 3-way toggle switch wired up and installed. Was planning on using the novelty "Chill/Vibes" chrome backing ring, but ultimately decided it was just too much. Looks a bit more refined without it. Also got the recessed switch nut dialed in by using the standard flat nut as an internal spacer to put the shaft threads just below (and out of sight) from the front view.

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Did a temporary fitting of the pots so I could get the spacer stack just right in order to have barely any space between the control knob bottoms and the body surface. This photo gives a bit more of an educated guess about how the finished product will look. The thin chrome pickup rings are from Warmoth. The chrome dome knobs were discovered in the "parts bin" - a wrong purchase at the time, but useful now!

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I also got the "OUT"put jack giggle wired up and ready. Still need to drill pilot holes for the pickup rings and jack plate.

Also ordered the Gotoh locking tuners. I really just want to try something different. I love the Schaller lockers. I'll decide after the neck arrives if I will end up using them.

Need to install the strap buttons, too. I have some of the oversized Gotoh buttons that I am leaning towards. I typically do the Schaller strap lock setup. Still undecided on that one.

Hi there, I just purchased the same tremolo.
Which route do you have?
Can you see any of the route from the top side rear the bar?

Thanks.

 

[Scab Pickens]

Which route do you have?

Gotoh 510 tremolo route.

Can you see any of the route from the top side rear the bar?

No.