Now THIS is very cool

[Doughboy]

http://evertune.com/

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbWJagI0nM8&feature=player_embedded#[/youtube]

 

[Cagey]

Interesting. I'd like to see one in real life.

 

[MikeW]

Interesting idea to float each saddle individually instead of the whole bridge. I think the hard part of the sell will be the bigger rout in the back: "The route cavity for the EverTune modules is similar to those for tremolo springs, about a half an inch longer, and a bit deeper." And it seems like it would have the same setup costs as a Floyd or a floating Wilkinson but without the advantage of being able to divebomb.

 

[Doughboy]

I'm in the middle of a tele build now & just wrote to the company to enquire about the system. I wouldn't mind putting it on my tele, but you need to send it to a qualified person for instalation & there may not be anyone around my area & I won't ship the body too far to get it done.

 

[rapfohl09]

Well I want one!

 

[hannaugh]

Yeah, that actually looks pretty cool. 

 

[B3Guy]

If they could fit the spring system in a trem block, I'd be sold!

 

[Ljbarbeau]

interesting but im gonna wait for the tremolo version...

 

[elgravos]

the review in guitar player is really interesting.  They are certainly sold on the system.  To me it seems like the first worthwhile piece of hardware to come out since the floyd which is not a gimmick.  Can't say I need one at the moment but will certainly give it some thought.  I often pull chords sharp with my sloppy fretting and that could be just the ticket to fix it.

 

[ocguy106]

Saw this at NAMM. It was pretty cool.

 

[JamesL]

Once again, this is one of those things I can't see the point it... Nothing a hardtail can't handle right?

 

[elfro89]

I don't really understand what difference this makes? surely an earvana would do the trick?  :icon_scratch:

 

[Cagey]

I don't really understand what difference this makes? surely an earvana would do the trick?  :icon_scratch:

Compensated nuts such as Earvana makes attempt to correct intonation. This bridge maintains tuning, with "maintain" being the operative word there. It's not tuner, per se. It doesn't change string length or tension, its purpose is to keep string tension constant. So, where normally when a string stretches or tightens for whatever reason and goes either flat or sharp, this thing takes up the slack or lets some out to keep the tension where you set it. As a result, the guitar won't go out of tune. You could use it together with a compensated nut, so intonation would be more correct up and down the neck, and once tuned up, wouldn't go out.

According to one of the inventors, it's not a new principle, it's just a new application of an old one. He says he's surprised nobody's done it up until now. But, they managed to get a patent on it, so they'll be able to charge through the nose for it. Although, they do say it'll cost less than Gibson's ill-fated "robot" system, but of course that's not hard to do.

The list of people who are positively impressed by this bridge is long and respectable, not a bunch of unknown shills, so it'll be interesting to see the first one in real life.

 

[ocguy106]

Once again, this is one of those things I can't see the point it... Nothing a hardtail can't handle right?

Wrong read the website. It keeps your guitar in tune by having each string anchored by it's own spring. the spring has a set tension dependant on the gauge of string. Once you string up and gett to tension you can turn your tuners 5 - 8 full turns and the pitch of the string won't change because instead of getting tighter the floating saddle will move forward keeping the same tension. after the saddle "bottoms out" it will then be the equivilent of a hard tail.

It is my understanding that you have to tune right up to the point of "bottoming out" then back off just a bit in order to allow for bends. It you set it right in the middle you won't be able to do bends.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Right, it doesn't tune for you, but it will keep it in tune. Thats pretty cool, but I don't see where the claim 'it keeps every note on the neck intonated' comes from, THAT bit doesn't make sense to me and sounds like BS, but it still seems like a handy tool.

$330 bucks though, I think that's a bit too steep seeing as it's a one trick pony.

 

[elfro89]

sure Cagey, but I've not really had problems with my guitar going out of tune at all. I mean stability wise, sure I've had the odd one or 2 issues, but nothing major enough to make me think "god damn it, BE STABLE!! *angry face,* " and those problems were tuning peg related and not bridge related... So what is this bridge doing that a fixed bridge can't do? Does it never ever go out of tune so you never have to tune until a string change? To me it just seems like its fixing a problem that wasn't really a problem to begin with... unless I've just yet to experience it for any great length of time. I mean am I missing the point? Cause if there are a lot of people who are impressed by it then there must be something I'm not getting.  :icon_scratch:

If Earvana's nut intonates better and my guitar doesn't go out of tune enough to be a problem, then this device is $300 of useless techno-crap .  :laughing11::

 

[scartozi]

While its a cool idea the cost of the bridge and installation between $530-630 seems waaaayyyy high, I mean it is just a bridge/saddles. BUT if someone was to give one to me I would try it out :icon_biggrin: 

 

[Cagey]

Right, it doesn't tune for you, but it will keep it in tune. Thats pretty cool, but I don't see where the claim 'it keeps every note on the neck intonated' comes from, THAT bit doesn't make sense to me and sounds like BS, but it still seems like a handy tool.

$330 bucks though, I think that's a bit too steep seeing as it's a one trick pony.

I think what they're talking about is the ability to compensate for uneven finger pressure on the frets from one string to the other(s). For instance, all my guitars have very tall frets on them (6100s), so if you're a heavy-handed player, you can put it out of tune just for the duration of a chord. You go to check your tuning find the strings are still all in. Drives me nuts, because one of my brothers or buddies will pick up one of my guitars (which tend to stay in tune), mess with it for 15 minutes or so and wish he had a Warmoth, then when I go to play it it's all out of tune because they kept adjusting for their inconsistent technique.

 

[bagman67]

COUGH *snake oil* COUGH.

More honestly, there may be something going on here that's worthwhile, but it's probably about the same as the Earvana thing:  the value realized is minimal and unlikely to be realized or appreciated by the bulk of users.  Hence the high price:  To recoup costs of development and marketing a thing that won't be widely adopted, you gotta price it high enough that there's a decent margin after covering the input costs.  Plus there's also that Laffer-curve thing - maybe you'd have wider adoption and thus greater gross revenues if you priced it lower, but we're just getting started here and monopolies patents are SUPPOSED to guarantee exclusive profits to the inventors or those who license from the inventors.

Meanwhile, I think a decent $30 fixed bridge and quality tuners and a well-cut nut will get 99.7% of guitarists 99.7% of what this bridge guarantees.

Carry on...

Bagman

 

[Cagey]

COUGH *snake oil* COUGH.

More honestly, there may be something going on here that's worthwhile, but it's probably about the same as the Earvana thing:  the value realized is minimal and unlikely to be realized or appreciated by the bulk of users.  Hence the high price:  To recoup costs of development and marketing a thing that won't be widely adopted, you gotta price it high enough that there's a decent margin after covering the input costs.  Plus there's also that Laffer-curve thing - maybe you'd have wider adoption and thus greater gross revenues if you priced it lower, but we're just getting started here and monopolies patents are SUPPOSED to guarantee exclusive profits to the inventors or those who license from the inventors.

Meanwhile, I think a decent $30 fixed bridge and quality tuners and a well-cut nut will get 99.7% of guitarists 99.7% of what this bridge guarantees.

Carry on...

Bagman

You're probably right. Hell, I run modern vibrato bridges with quality tuners and a well-cut nuts, and I don't really have tuning issues. Unless, as I mentioned earlier, I let the wrong person play the thing.