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Am just about to order my first Warmoth build and have a newbie question in regards to tone controls.

Was thinking I might leave it out, I never really use it but does a tone pot brighten or dull the signal ?



Cheers, Buck.
 
If you have a tone control (of conventional type), the sound will always be slightly affected, even when it is turned to its brightest setting.
If you have no tone control, the tone will be slightly brighter.
You could use a Fender "no load" tone control, which is effectively out of circuit at its brightest setting.
 
It also depends on your pickups.  On my rickenbackers with hi-gains, I ended up disconnecting the tone control.  On my Teles, you need that tone control to tame the highs back from ice pick land.  I'd try disconnecting the tone on a similar guitar and see if you like the tone.

However, it's possible to do a fixed tone control inside the body cavity if you omit the hole then decide that you need it later.
 
Thanks for the advice guys.

I'm thinking of putting an angled humbucker (Dimarzio Evolution) in a strat body with no middle or front pick ups.

It's my first project and I just though it'd be a smidgen easier as it would be one less thing to wire up if omitted but I think I'll just go with the tone nob from the get go now just to be safe.
 
Fender's 'no load' tone pot removes the pot completely from the circuit when 'clicked' off. Wires up the same as any other pot. guitarelectronics.com has them.
 
Personally I like tone knobs... I turn up the treble on my amp and cut it back a little with the tone knob on the guitar.

But if you don't use it, don't include it.  The one-knob-one-HB guitar is tried and true, thanks to EVH's gazillion fans all wanting an axe like his.  :)
 
Yeah there's a bit of EVH influence in this build. First project and thought I'd just build a simple warhorse, almost my version of Frankenstein concept.

Just need to work out what Warmoth strat neck has the closest profile to my Ibanez 450S and then I'll be ordering.
 
Buckshot said:
Yeah there's a bit of EVH influence in this build. First project and thought I'd just build a simple warhorse, almost my version of Frankenstein concept.

Just need to work out what Warmoth strat neck has the closest profile to my Ibanez 450S and then I'll be ordering.

thats the standard thin, in my book that is.
 
I borrowed a set of vernier callipers from work and measured the necks on my Ibanez 450S, old Pink Jem and my Paul Gilbert model and they are all the same size which according to Warmoth is their "wizard" neck. I was suprised I would have never thought those 3 necks were exactly the same.

Gonna work through everything I need in a series of emails with one of the Warmoth sales guys and hopefully place my order within the week. I'm all the way down in Australia so I wanna make sure I get this right in one go.
 
Buckshot said:
Am just about to order my first Warmoth build and have a newbie question in regards to tone controls.

Was thinking I might leave it out, I never really use it but does a tone pot brighten or dull the signal ?

A tone pot, as typically wired in an electric guitar, is still a first-order low pass filter when the pot is at "10".

However, you can easily leave out the pot and just use a resistor. Put a 250 or 500 Kohm resistor (whatever you pot would have been) in series with the same capacitor you would have used and put that across your hot wire towards mass.

You can also use a little trimmer inside the guitar, then you can adjust it to your taste once.
 
I disconnected my tone control last week, and had my first band practice with it yesterday.

I was amazed at how much brighter my guitar was...it was too bright, in fact. And on a double-humbucker guitar, I guess that's saying something.  :guitaristgif:
 
alot of that depends on the pickups, of course... I suggest getting a "no load" tone pot and that way you can try with and without pot/capacitor resistance depending on the knob level. If it isn't too bright... than you can lose the knob altogether...
 
As Eddie Van Halen used to say:  "Ya just don't need a f###ing tone control."

None of my electric guitars have the tone controls connected, and my Warmoth build has no tone controls at all...
 
I like my tone controls. Granted, I don't use much of its taper, maybe only the first half. Still, I manipulate that and my vol knobs all the time to get different sounds. I have some weird switching on my guitar though so I guess it all fits together.
 
I never used the tone knob on any of my guitars, so when I built my Warmoth, I just didn't put any. It's a mahogany body and neck with two P-90s, and it sounds great to me. Lots of bite. I've just got two volume controls, but some people think that's really weird. 
 
I know that some players actually use tone controls, but it has always amazed me at how guys who keep their tone controls wide open at all times (basically never use them) insist that they've gotta have them...
 
T.L. said:
I know that some players actually use tone controls, but it has always amazed me at how guys who keep their tone controls wide open at all times (basically never use them) insist that they've gotta have them...
Well, it's nice to have the option, I guess. And anyways, the pot will darken the sound a bit, so it won't be quite as bright.
 
T.L. said:
I know that some players actually use tone controls, but it has always amazed me at how guys who keep their tone controls wide open at all times (basically never use them) insist that they've gotta have them...

hey... im one of those guys! lol i would much rather have two volume than two tone. is there any way i can do that? like one tone controls both pickups tone and i have two separate volume knobs?
 
smavridis said:
hey... im one of those guys! lol i would much rather have two volume than two tone. is there any way i can do that? like one tone controls both pickups tone and i have two separate volume knobs?
Yep.
 
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