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Cagey

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Somebody was asking about a Tele bridge that would work with a Bigsby the other day, but I can't remember the thread it was in. Anyway, I was leafing through the latest Guitar Player magazine and saw an ad from Guitar Fetish that showed this bridge...

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...for $35 - $42. Nice piece of work, although it requires a bit of neck tilt due to its height. Still, individually intonatable saddles with rollers, no bothersome breaks on the sides of the base. Saddle heights are adjustable overall like a TOM, but individually using shims like a Floyd, so you can compensate for various radii. Bolts right into a standard Tele drill pattern. Available in chrome, nickel, gold and black. Could come in handy.
 
That is a nice looking bridge and I really like the features. 
I would be interested to hear from someone who has tried it...
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I haven't tried that particular configuration, but they sell the bridge itself (less the Tele mounting plate) as an alternative to the TOM and I put one on my L5S, which has a Bigsby. Works like a charm.
 
Yeah, I've been looking at that guy as a possibility for my baritone Tele.  It's a handsome bit of kit, but I'm a little leery of shimming the neck. The good news is that if I try it and it's a bust, I have a conventional ashtray tele bridge to switch over to.
 
I'm not a proponent of neck shims, but I imagine if you used something good and solid it wouldn't be such a Bad Thing. Perhaps cut up some aluminum cans. They're thin, and easily cut with just scissors. You could make something that fit the neck pocket better. Add layers as needed. Shouldn't need much; there's quite a ratio between the thickness of the shim and the amount the headstock moves back.
 
I've re-angled Warmoth neck pockets with basically the toothy side of a four-in-hand wood rasp, and a 1.25" wide wood block with 50-grit wet/dry sandpaper. It's easier to make it perfectly flat with the wider block, and the little turtly guy is a nice depth gauge - you either want to wipe out his feet or his head, depending.  :hello2:

BUT - and this is a big butt - I've done enough shimming over the years that I have a good idea how much wood I want to take out. The turtle stamp isn't done to consistent depths, and on turtle-less pockets I will usually drill a couple of tiny little imprints with a bit in a pin vise, maybe only 30 or 50 thousandths of an inch - just for depth-removal guides. AND - I have the neck right there (shielded from 50-grit shrapnel) and a really, really straight long straightedge. It really only takes like twenty minutes - the fifth time.

Just Think.... where is the offensive wood? Why did it offend you? How bad do you want to hurt it? GRRR, GRR, GRR....
job finished! :hello2:
 
Cagey said:
I'm not a proponent of neck shims, but I imagine if you used something good and solid it wouldn't be such a Bad Thing. Perhaps cut up some aluminum cans. They're thin, and easily cut with just scissors. You could make something that fit the neck pocket better. Add layers as needed. Shouldn't need much; there's quite a ratio between the thickness of the shim and the amount the headstock moves back.

DUUUDE!! Please! Just imagining the feel and sound of that is making the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Good Lord!!
MULLY
 
Yeah  :icon_scratch:  ..... the Tone would SUCK .....  :laughing7:

I won't be putting that one, on my memory list.
 
Working regularly now with vintage fender's, there really is no way around shimming. It can help a lot too... It increases tension on the strings and break angle as well, making for more sustain. Nothing wrong with it at all. :icon_thumright:
 
mullyman said:
Cagey said:
I'm not a proponent of neck shims, but I imagine if you used something good and solid it wouldn't be such a Bad Thing. Perhaps cut up some aluminum cans. They're thin, and easily cut with just scissors. You could make something that fit the neck pocket better. Add layers as needed. Shouldn't need much; there's quite a ratio between the thickness of the shim and the amount the headstock moves back.

DUUUDE!! Please! Just imagining the feel and sound of that is making the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Good Lord!!
MULLY

I can't help you with the sound of making the shim, I guess i'm used to it (ducks and waits for another lecture). I also seriously doubt that a rigid shim of insignificant mass relative to the two massive wooden bodies it separates, could be demonstrated to have any quantifiable impact by any test you could imagine.
But logic and physics don't really apply to guitars.

Just be careful with the turtle or he might bite your kneecaps off
 
Shimming the neck in my Warmoth was the difference between having a guitar that could be set up to be decently playable, and a guitar that could be set up to be absolutely perfect (to me). That makes way more of a positive impact on the music coming out of it than any unproven negative impact caused by having a shim in there.
 
"A tight neck pocket" is just one of those things that mentally spun out-of-control because we are traipsing in a field of mostly hype & ILL-logic. Now, it can be a sign of craftsmanship when all the parts fit together nicely - but somewhere in the mists somebody began knob-polishing their own perceived pocket-tightness and everyone giddily (& instantly) leaped aboard. "OH MY GOD- IT'S SOMETHING NEW TO HYPE!" To the point that more than a few makers have bragged about being able to pound the neck into it's slot and pick up the body with the neck - before there are any screws! Fantastic, wonderful, your seats in heaven will be right on the 50-yard line...

Hey, Doodlefutz!... are you going to put any varnish on that thing?  :icon_scratch: :icon_tongue: :laughing8: :toothy12:

uh-oh.

Meanwhile, those old 1968 paisley Telecasters that James Burton, Scotty Anderson, Brad Paisley hold to be their own personal unholy grail had neck pocket clearance you could drop a quarter into. I dunno, I use screws to hold my neck on... "tight neck pocket" is like another bugaboo, "sustain." Yes - if a guitar has no sustain, that's a bad sign - but the characteristics of a guitar that has really long sustain are not the same characteristics of a guitar that has a warm 'n' woody tonal nature, indeed, they're somewhat oppositional. Ever notice how often Stevie Ray Vaughan had to double pick or even (sort-of) tremolo-pick his big manly git-faced bent notes to get them to stay where they're put?  :laughing3:

There are all sorts of these tiny little talking-points that get fixated upon, then competed-over, then they become "conventional wisdom" as they are pounded into our heads with no need whatsoever to support their importance.

Guitar maker 1: "My guitar sustains good!"
Guitar maker 2: "My guitar sustains gooder than that!"
Guitar maker 3: "My guitar sustains even gooderer than those!"
Guitar maker 1: "My guitar has a tight neck pocket, though!"
Guitar maker 2: "My guitar has an ever tighter one than that!"
Guitar maker 3: "Your mama dresses you funny!"

Etc. etc. and so forth ad nausea on and on and on... meanwhile, the most bone-headed engineering concepts boldly soldier on, mowing down entire fields of logical thinking, like - humbucking pickups STILL only have a single mounting screw on each side! How many millions of precious man-hours have been wasted cramming little bits of foam and shit underneath pickups, yanking them out, cramcramcram over and over to try to get them to sit flat, chasing around springs that sproinged into the shag rug in the crepuscular dark dank den - oh, the tragedy! The horror! And at least half-a-dozen (mostly seditious oriental) companies have TRIED to sell guitars with three and even four height adjustment screws on each humbucker -- problem SOLVED - say, what's that ignominious flubbery sound I hear... O.M.G., is that ROASTING HUMAN FLESH I smell?!? Never reach critical mass against a stupid idea if there's a lot more stupids than smarts that's all. QWERTY? If you can find an electrical engineer to tell you that 1/4" phone jacks are among the top five things he'd use to transmit music-laden electrical signal - he's got a stake in it somewhere. :headbang1:
 
I actually contemplated using RJ45 on my guitar. Balanced out, split rail power, and data... but even being a curmudgeon in training who builds his own amps, its hard to give up ubiquity and being at the mercy of my amp or converter box failing/not being present.
 
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