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Yet another maker comes out with yet another line up of pedals of identical function to all other line ups (including their own existing pedals). At least tc electronic have a solid reputation for good sounds, but geez it's a crowded market out there :tard:

Toneprint pedals

Not sure what the attraction is beyond the brand name. Being able to download Famous Dude's preset doesn't sway me much I'm afraid...
 
A USB port on a compact pedal? Weird.

I wonder if they use USB-MIDI? That way, you could set up a sequencer to change settings during a song.
 
kböman said:
Being able to download Famous Dude's preset doesn't sway me much I'm afraid...
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Count me in as unimpressed by the ability to copy somebody else's idea of where to set a couple knobs. Are there really players out there who are so confused by such simple things that they can't adjust a couple knobs until they're happy? If so, I feel sorry for them. Probably have to remind themselves to breathe out after breathing in.
 
I still don't understand why people screw around with pedals?

I had my pedal phase years ago... 10 or 15 squares sliding all over the floor, each one adding another gain stage to squash my headroom and give me more noise. You spend $100-$500 on something that will give you a weird sound effect you will only use once in a while, why not go with a high quality multi-effects unit instead? Then you can get into presets and midi-based switching.

 
line6man said:
I still don't understand why people screw around with pedals?

I had my pedal phase years ago... 10 or 15 squares sliding all over the floor, each one adding another gain stage to squash my headroom and give me more noise. You spend $100-$500 on something that will give you a weird sound effect you will only use once in a while, why not go with a high quality multi-effects unit instead? Then you can get into presets and midi-based switching.
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Because silly, we have G.A.S......jeeezzzz.. :doh:
 
I think pedals and multi-effects both have their place. I used to have a few DOD pedals and got rid of them for rack stuff, now I'm buying some pedals again.

After doing the work of setting up patches, multi-effects are great for replicating what you need each time. Pedals are cool for real-time tweaking and experimentation. Each can also have a unique sound, where a multi will only have what is programmed into it.
 
line6man said:
I still don't understand why people screw around with pedals?
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They fall in and out of favor. You watch. It won't be too much longer and everybody's gonna get sick of goofing around with a jillion boxes, cables, power supplies, knobs, etc. just to get an echo, chorus, or distortion. Rack gear will get popular again, and everyone will wonder how they ever dealt with that horrific maintenance headache on the floor.

Problem seems to be that the rack effect makers over-estimated how much obscurity and abstraction your typical player was capable of handling. You had user interfaces with a 20 character two line text display and three buttons to control 89 bajillion parameters. Even if you were masochistic enough to enjoy that sort of thing, or didn't have any problem with it, it was still a major league pain in the shorts. Now that high-resolution touch screen displays are so cheap they put them on cell phones, there's no excuse for user interface hardships. Nobody's offering anything like that yet, but I suspect we'll see them show up fairly soon. Modern pedal boards are insane.
 
I'm with Cagey re the user interface, rack gear is slowly inching into vogue again and the potential for good, useful UIs is much better this time around.

The usb thingy baffles me. Is it difficult to look at 3 knobs on a screen and set your own knobs to the same positions? Also, unless those knobs are motorised, the settings on the pedal will have little to do with the actual sound...
 
I would love to see rack gear become popular. :icon_biggrin:

I LOVE the rackmount format. All of my gear except for a few DI boxes, studio monitors and my mixer is racked up, and it's just so much more convenient to have everything in a rack instead of on the floor or sprawled out everywhere.

As far as I know, most people don't like racks because if you are gigging, they are big and heavy to lug around. I suppose that's a valid concern. My gear never moves, though, so it's not an issue for me, personally.

I snatched up a Korg DTR1000 a while back, for a good price. I'm kind of pissed off that Korg discontinued their rackmount format tuners, and no one else but Behringer (No need to elaborate...) and Peterson (Very expensive.) sell them now. :dontknow:
 
Yeah, I'm a big rackmount fan myself. Can't stand having a truckload of boxes and cables on the floor, and a pedalboard isn't much of an improvement. I'm also pretty much a stay-at-home player, but I still want a wireless so I can get rid of the guitar cord, too. I've really been lusting after a Line 6 G90,

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but at $600 I haven't been able to see my way clear.
 
I have seen it come and go and come and go again

I remember in the 70s all wanting a fuzz face, octava and a wah, had to have those, then more stuff came along and we got to pick and chose. as things went along we found out the limits of all those pedals, one was noise, and then blamo it was time for the Hair metal days and the multirack mount days. That was nice, we all had 2 Marshall 50 watt rack mounts with a processor for each, played stereo into 2 4x12s and had 2 more fake cabinets with fake heads on top for show. our rack systems were behind those but they had huge drawbacks and the biggest was noise. Grunge hit and we all went back to simple rigs till pedals came around again. Now we have in the last 5 years seen more multi effects get popular again.

But the defining moment on all of it is noise.Without  true bypass you end up with a uncontrollable gain level if using individual pedals, with a processor you end up with the effects of that processor not the ones you can get with individual pedals. So wanting a quite rig, and deciding to develop the "JIM" sound and not wanting to emulate every player out there I decided to get simple. I use stereo amp set up for natural chorus, Use tubes for distorion, if my amp can not give that I have a Tube Driver pedal with a real tube in it, that is hard to tune in to be transparent. I also use a Cry Baby Wha, Been using that brand since the 70s.

I have gotten very attached to that 2 pedal setup. Sure It has extreme limits, but that is ME, not me trying to sound like every guitarist out there. I think you have to take a pick, either go pedals and try to tame that, getting the benefit of being able to pick each sound you want. or go multi processor and deal with the tuning programing of that ( I notice thousands of settings advertised on some sites, easy right?) I can not chose for anyone else, just myself, I only wish I had the money back I have wasted chasing everyone else's sound for so many years.
 
PS,, a waireless is not an option, it is a must have.

ever try to untangle your chords onstage when you have a few guys who walk around?
 
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