NEW: Egyptian Eye inlays!

[NefariousShredd]

So I’m playing the new Indiana Jones game while listening to Blood Incantation, and then suddenly Warmoth comes out with an Egyptian themed inlay set that looks dope while I’m planning a build. I feel my wallet being personally targeted.

 

[Waraxe]

Lemme get this straight, you go through all this for fancy inlaysvwith limited appeal, but STILL don't have off set dots?

All on bass side, and lower octave bass side/upper octove treble side would be nice.
Simple too.

Yet here we are.........

 

[aarontunes]

Lemme get this straight, you go through all this for fancy inlaysvwith limited appeal, but STILL don't have off set dots?

All on bass side, and lower octave bass side/upper octove treble side would be nice.
Simple too.

Yet here we are.........

@Knorris You seeing this?

 

[supertruper1988]

Lemme get this straight, you go through all this for fancy inlaysvwith limited appeal, but STILL don't have off set dots?

All on bass side, and lower octave bass side/upper octove treble side would be nice.
Simple too.

Yet here we are.........

I mean there are so many nut widths to consider and them multiply by scale length options and fret count options. Pretty tall order if you ask me.

 

[aarontunes]

Lemme get this straight, you go through all this for fancy inlaysvwith limited appeal, but STILL don't have off set dots?

All on bass side, and lower octave bass side/upper octove treble side would be nice.
Simple too.

Yet here we are.........

I mean there are so many nut widths to consider and them multiply by scale length options and fret count options. Pretty tall order if you ask me.

It is indeed a very tall order. We know, because we've already looked into it.

Offset dots are a piece of cake when you only have to design them around a single fretboard radius and a single nut width. But we offer four nut widths and, like, 20 fretboard radii. Not to mention, as you say, multiple scale lengths.

For example, here is only one of the issues: you want offset dots to run parallel with the edge of the fretboard. So you program them to be parallel with the edge on a 1-11/16" nut width neck. Them someone orders a 1-5/8" nut width, and suddenly the dots at the nut end are closer to the fretboard edge than the ones at the body end. So you have to have four programs in order to get the dots in the right position for every nut width. Even once you have everything programmed for CNC, actually implementing it introduces complications in production, QC, and the web department.

Anyway, the reality of the situation is summed up well in this video:

 

[Spud]

It is a very tall order. We know, because we've already looked into it.

Offset dots are a piece of cake when you only have to design them around a single fretboard radius and a single nut width. But we offer four nut widths and, like, 20 fretboard radii. Not to mention, as you say, multiple scale lengths.

For example, here is only one of the issues: you want offset dots to run parallel with the edge of the fretboard. So you program them to be parallel with the edge on a 1-11/16" nut width neck. Them someone orders a 1-5/8" nut width, and suddenly the dots at the nut end are closer to the fretboard edge than the ones at the body end.

The reality of the situation is really summed up in this video:

I enjoy a piece of cake occasionally!

 

[ghostrider]

It is indeed a very tall order. We know, because we've already looked into it.

Offset dots are a piece of cake when you only have to design them around a single fretboard radius and a single nut width. But we offer four nut widths and, like, 20 fretboard radii. Not to mention, as you say, multiple scale lengths.

For example, here is only one of the issues: you want offset dots to run parallel with the edge of the fretboard. So you program them to be parallel with the edge on a 1-11/16" nut width neck. Them someone orders a 1-5/8" nut width, and suddenly the dots at the nut end are closer to the fretboard edge than the ones at the body end. So you have to have four programs in order to get the dots in the right position for every nut width. Even once you have everything programmed for CNC, actually implementing it introduces complications in production, QC, and the web department.

Anyway, the reality of the situation is summed up well in this video:

That's a lotta dragons to slay.

 

[Knorris]

@Knorris You seeing this?

Haha, Why yes I am.

 

[Hodgo]

Let me refer you, dear reader, to yesterday's little nugget of discontent.

TLDR: Bassists are few and far between, so they are often actual working musicians who can’t afford inlays. Guitarists are one in a million and therefore leave the scene to become dentists, and they spend money on fancy inlays.

Also

 

[mayfly]

hold up a sec - wasn't there an entire line of warmoth bodies and necks just for bass? And didn't it have fancy inlays that were not available to guitarists, as well as unique bodies and headstocks?

wait - it was discontinued. Never Mind

 

[supertruper1988]

hold up a sec - wasn't there an entire line of warmoth bodies and necks just for bass? And didn't it have fancy inlays that were not available to guitarists, as well as unique bodies and headstocks?

wait - it was discontinued. Never Mind

what was that line? I only recall the Gecko stuff which is still offered.

 

[Jebberz]

hold up a sec - wasn't there an entire line of warmoth bodies and necks just for bass? And didn't it have fancy inlays that were not available to guitarists, as well as unique bodies and headstocks?

wait - it was discontinued. Never Mind

We have the Gecko bass necks, with a cool Gecko inlay, so we can feel special too...

 

[aarontunes]

The weird thing is, people will wail and gnash their teeth about things like this, but when it becomes available the sales never seem to equal the outrage. I think people just want to rail about the inequity and unfairness of it, but they don't actually want it for themselves. They just want the sense of justice.

At Warmoth we see this over and over again. As one example, see the 22 Alpine White bodies that still have not sold, going on three week later.

 

[teleme01]

I clamored for universal tele route and bindless mooncaster, now there are affordable mooncasters that I can't buy and I have a tele with universal route that I can't decide what pickup to use. Sometimes we get what we want and sometimes we just want.

 

[BroccoliRob]

yo these inlays are da bomb. especially the big eye. I mean, Ra and Horus are cool and all, but you ever hear about this dude Sobek? now Sobek i could get into.

a few years ago (pre pandemic) our workplace area got an office turtle (turtle that kind of chills in the office), which we named Gary, but there was already a Gary at the time, so he said to rename it, so we starting call it Good Looking Gary, which human Gary also didn't like, so then we called it 'Gary 1' and human Gary 'Gary 2", and he still didn't like that (some people are just impossible). he wrote a formal written complaint and the head of the department said we had to come up with a non-Gary name, so we started calling it "Smarter Henry" (Henry being the name of the dept. head) and boy did that get us in trouble.

we were told to either get rid of the turtle or to give it a non-human name, like Flappy or Shelly, or something. those names are terrible so we did a drawing out of a hat and everyone put in a suggestion. Jenny pulled "Muscular Rob" out of the hat, implying i am out of shape, which is only a half-truth, and obviously Gary's suggestion so it was crumpled and dismissed immediately, plus nobody even laughed. i submitted "Fun Gary" but it didn't get pulled.

the name that won was Sobek, but the weird thing was that nobody took credit for it. anyway, Dan was like "that's dumb, Sobek is a alligator, not a turtle" and i was like "more like the humanoid alligator patron god of friggin eygpt" and 2 guys went "whoa" (out loud) and everyone but Gary (ever the stick in the mud) started to think it was actually pretty cool. Jenny audibly gasped.

and look, when you think about it, an alligator is more or less a turtle that grew too big for its shall and became a giant lizard and moved to Florida, so Sobek is like the buff humanoid furry version of that, which is pretty bad*ss. actually, the term for a lizard furry is a scalie, but my knowledge of furrydom is a tale for another time.

since Sobek is a gator-person and gators are basically long turtles and turtle is warmoth's mascot, the connection is obvious and should be celebrated

anyway, an army of Sobeks in profile view marching across frets 3 5 7 9, the big cool eye on 11 12 13, and the ankhs on 15/17/19/21 would would be the ideal setup, please and thank you

 

[Rick]

 

[Hodgo]

The weird thing is, people will wail and gnash their teeth about things like this, but when it becomes available the sales never seem to equal the outrage. I think people just want to rail about the inequity and unfairness of it, but they don't actually want it for themselves. They just want the sense of justice.

Fair point.

I know I’m not indicative of the general market demand, but I don’t get some of the releases y’all have prioritized (olive drab, alpine white). To me, the appeal of Warmoth is the customization, but it seems like the strategy lately is driving interest through limited releases with no customization. Seems counterintuitive to me, but I’m sure your P&L says otherwise!

Having said that, I will happily sign a legally binding agreement to buy a Meadowhawk when those finally drop as a custom option if that helps move them closer to production.

 

[Scab Pickens]

The weird thing is, people will wail and gnash their teeth about things like this, but when it becomes available the sales never seem to equal the outrage. I think people just want to rail about the inequity and unfairness of it, but they don't actually want it for themselves. They just want the sense of justice.

At Warmoth we see this over and over again. As one example, see the 22 Alpine White bodies that still have not sold, going on three week later.

9 of the Alpine White bodies are Strats with the vintage 6-hole tremolo bridge. Not a very desirable option. The rest are pretty heavy, for the most part. Only one has a contoured heel (a 5.69lb Nomad). I guess the point I am getting at is ... if someone wants Alpine White, he or she most likely has other specific options in mind. It seems to me that Warmoth gathered up a bundle of things that weren't selling, painted them Alpine White, and hoped people would jump on them. Not happening, apparently.

I must say, though ... the Olive Drab Gotoh 510 Meadowhawk I built is perfect for my needs! I'm glad I jumped on that one .

 

[NedRyerson]

We have the Gecko bass necks, with a cool Gecko inlay, so we can feel special too...

I'm still aiming to save my money for a full Gecko set.

This is also why I don't understand why someone would order then decline a Gecko neck without the Gecko inlay so that it ends up in Showcase. I mean, c'mon! The whole uniqueness of the Gecko is its purpose and function in life, and to appeal to the customers like me who want the weird designs but lack the easy-flowing funds to buy them all (like how I can't adopt every dog who needs a home).

For the Alpine Whites, a person like me would've jumped on a V body, but I also understand from Aaron's comments throughout the years that I am most definitely in the minority as far as marketshare goes. I want those out-of-the-ordinary body shapes, headstocks, and inlay options....but I'm just one guy who doesn't have that neverending flow of funds to sustain WM's business model in that line-up.

Now, an Alpine White Gecko Small 5-string bass body with a wenge Gecko Small 5er neck, purpleheart board, with white-pearloid Gecko inlay.... Call it "Grape Creamsicle" and it's mine....if I had that kind of money at that given moment!

 

[ghostrider]

yo these inlays are da bomb. especially the big eye. I mean, Ra and Horus are cool and all, but you ever hear about this dude Sobek? now Sobek i could get into.

a few years ago (pre pandemic) our workplace area got an office turtle (turtle that kind of chills in the office), which we named Gary, but there was already a Gary at the time, so he said to rename it, so we starting call it Good Looking Gary, which human Gary also didn't like, so then we called it 'Gary 1' and human Gary 'Gary 2", and he still didn't like that (some people are just impossible). he wrote a formal written complaint and the head of the department said we had to come up with a non-Gary name, so we started calling it "Smarter Henry" (Henry being the name of the dept. head) and boy did that get us in trouble.

we were told to either get rid of the turtle or to give it a non-human name, like Flappy or Shelly, or something. those names are terrible so we did a drawing out of a hat and everyone put in a suggestion. Jenny pulled "Muscular Rob" out of the hat, implying i am out of shape, which is only a half-truth, and obviously Gary's suggestion so it was crumpled and dismissed immediately, plus nobody even laughed. i submitted "Fun Gary" but it didn't get pulled.

the name that won was Sobek, but the weird thing was that nobody took credit for it. anyway, Dan was like "that's dumb, Sobek is a alligator, not a turtle" and i was like "more like the humanoid alligator patron god of friggin eygpt" and 2 guys went "whoa" (out loud) and everyone but Gary (ever the stick in the mud) started to think it was actually pretty cool. Jenny audibly gasped.

and look, when you think about it, an alligator is more or less a turtle that grew too big for its shall and became a giant lizard and moved to Florida, so Sobek is like the buff humanoid furry version of that, which is pretty bad*ss. actually, the term for a lizard furry is a scalie, but my knowledge of furrydom is a tale for another time.

since Sobek is a gator-person and gators are basically long turtles and turtle is warmoth's mascot, the connection is obvious and should be celebrated

anyway, an army of Sobeks in profile view marching across frets 3 5 7 9, the big cool eye on 11 12 13, and the ankhs on 15/17/19/21 would would be the ideal setup, please and thank you

The entire time I was reading this, I was imagining human Gary as Jerry from Parks and Rec who's "real" name is Gary. He is heavy and all the characters frequently have laughs at his expense, but everyone comes to find out several seasons later that Gary has a smokin' hot wife and smokin' hot adult daughters. No one can figure out that math.