Meanwhile, at Warmoth....New Inlay Shapes!!!

[T89Rex]

The split diamond is a real winner. Some folks are mentioning markers at the twelfth fret only. Is that an option?

 

[exaN]

The split diamond is a real winner. Some folks are mentioning markers at the twelfth fret only. Is that an option?

Not available via the website but as Aaron says in the video, if you contact them they can do it. In fact, if you have any requests not available directly on the website, it's probably worth asking Warmoth to see if they can do it .

 

[aarontunes]

Here is the deal with the new inlay shapes:

• Inlay on the first fret is standard. If you want it omitted, we can do that. Just call in.
• 12th fret only is also an option, but not offered on the website. If you want it, call in.

As far as offset dots, turtles, etc, etc, the reason we don't offer a lot of things is often simply because we haven't had time to get to them yet. It's not necessarily that we can't do things, or don't want to. It's that we can't find a way to fit 10 gallons of water into a 5 gallon bucket. Adding a small feature like offset dots sounds easy, and in a vacuum it would be. Unfortunately no such vacuum exists. We push forward with adding new options and products as best we can, in a way we hope makes the most customers happy.

 

[rgand]

We push forward with adding new options and products as best we can, in a way we hope makes the most customers happy.

I'd say you're doing fine in that regard. At least I have no complaints. You introduce new options just fast enough to keep things interesting. Too much all at once would be almost overwhelming.

 

[Logrinn]

We push forward with adding new options and products as best we can, in a way we hope makes the most customers happy.

I'd say you're doing fine in that regard. At least I have no complaints. You introduce new options just fast enough to keep things interesting. Too much all at once would be almost overwhelming.

Hear, hear

 

[T89Rex]

Is there any possibility of mixing and matching? Eg dots but with a fancy shape on the 12th fret.

 

[musicispeace]

I noticed that, for the most part, they looked better on darker fretboards. They're all kind of cool. Hard to decide which is my favorite. Can you get a neck with all of them on it?

I'm sure this is a rarity but I have one maple strat neck with a Goncalo Alves fretboard that I had custom inlays done on and it hasn't been put on a guitar yet but the pealoid looks good with the Goncalo.

 

[BigSteve22]

NOW I remember where I've seen that Supernova pattern before, on my wife's Subaru!

That don't make it ugly, but it kills it for me.

I understand the logic behind offering inlays that Warmoth believes will out sell other choices, but I've seen multiple requests on this forum for offset dots, and I don't remember seeing ANY for Japanese car logos. So, for future reference, allow me to channel my inner 4 year old in reiterating:

Please daddy, PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE??  ??? ???
:icon_jokercolor:

 

[Kostas]

...I understand the logic behind offering inlays that Warmoth believes will out sell other choices, but I've seen multiple requests on this forum for offset dots...

Even though I will probably won't order more Warmoth products and I now prefer blank fretboards two inlay choices I wanted in the 5 necks I ordered:

1) Thin dots Music Man style. Oddly enough Warmoth has been offering these for years but only on the Snakehead neck. I asked back in 2014 and their answer was only in black - only on a Snakehead neck  :dontknow:
2) Offset dots and other offset discreet inlays (think Gretsch) would be cool.

 

[DangerousR6]

NOW I remember where I've seen that Supernova pattern before, on my wife's Subaru!

That don't make it ugly, but it kills it for me.

I understand the logic behind offering inlays that Warmoth believes will out sell other choices, but I've seen multiple requests on this forum for offset dots, and I don't remember seeing ANY for Japanese car logos. So, for future reference, allow me to channel my inner 4 year old in reiterating:

Please daddy, PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE??  ??? ???
:icon_jokercolor:

As I've said before, I too prefer no inlays on the fretboard face. But I do like the offset dots as on my Jackson's. I would like to see that as well. And in this case I'd have to disagree with double A, as a machinist and CNC programer, time isn't a factor. It would take like 5 minuets to program something of the sort.....So there has to be some other reason... :dontknow:

 

[aarontunes]

As I've said before, I too prefer no inlays on the fretboard face. But I do like the offset dots as on my Jackson's. I would like to see that as well. And in this case I'd have to disagree with double A, as a machinist and CNC programer, time isn't a factor. It would take like 5 minuets to program something of the sort.....So there has to be some other reason... :dontknow:

It's way more complicated than you think. We can't simply do a standard program to move dots to the side. Here is just one of the problems we would wrestle with: Where they need to fall is impacted by the width of the neck. If we align them for a 1-11/16" nut width they'll be wonky for 1-5/8" or 1-3/4"... and way wonky on a super wide neck. Sooo....we'd have to write a more complicated program with a menu for the machine operator to choose nut width to get them done right.

Stuff like this is not a slam dunk. It's just not.

 

[DangerousR6]

As I've said before, I too prefer no inlays on the fretboard face. But I do like the offset dots as on my Jackson's. I would like to see that as well. And in this case I'd have to disagree with double A, as a machinist and CNC programer, time isn't a factor. It would take like 5 minuets to program something of the sort.....So there has to be some other reason... :dontknow:

It's way more complicated than you think. We can't simply do a standard program to move dots to the side. Here is just one of the problems we would wrestle with: Where they need to fall is impacted by the width of the neck. If we align them for a 1-11/16" nut width they'll be wonky for 1-5/8" or 1-3/4"... and way wonky on a super wide neck. Sooo....we'd have to write a more complicated program with a menu for the machine operator to choose nut width to get them done right.

Stuff like this is not a slam dunk. It's just not.

True, obviously I understand one program wouldn't work for all neck widths. There would have to be multiple programs, but based on the fact that multiple set ups have already been addressed, i.e. all the inlays that are currently in use with varying neck widths. Also, I don't know your process for programming and set up, but this is what I've been doing daily for 30 years, so it's not all that complicated for me... :icon_biggrin:

 

[Logrinn]

Hmm, I for one find that these new inlay shapes is another awesome set of options that is a big part of why Warmoth is so great. I applaud you guys for giving us new options and features to choose from almost monthly.

If one would like an inlay option that isn't offered by Warmoth, there's always people that can do it for you. Although, it might cost two or three times more than what Warmoth charges ...

 

[Cagey]

...obviously I understand one program wouldn't work for all neck widths.

One program could work for all neck widths and scale lengths. It depends on how the program is written. I used to write programs that dealt with variable part geometry all the time. But, it also depends on at least a couple givens so the machine has a known starting point. You generally can't just tell a machine to go find a part and orient it on its own. You might use fixturing or some sort of automated placement stuff to get things set in space, then tell the robot/cnc/whatever that it's ok to run its  routine.

But, if they're using a single machine to accomplish a multitude of tasks, it might be difficult to configure it for one thing without having to tear things down or reset them to do the next thing. Starts adding up to a lotta lost motion.

 

[DangerousR6]

...obviously I understand one program wouldn't work for all neck widths.

One program could work for all neck widths and scale lengths. It depends on how the program is written. I used to write programs that dealt with variable part geometry all the time. But, it also depends on at least a couple givens so the machine has a known starting point. You generally can't just tell a machine to go find a part and orient it on its own. You might use fixturing or some sort of automated placement stuff to get things set in space, then tell the robot/cnc/whatever that it's ok to run its  routine.

But, if they're using a single machine to accomplish a multitude of tasks, it might be difficult to configure it for one thing without having to tear things down or reset them to do the next thing. Starts adding up to a lotta lost motion.

Yes, production is a complex animal... :doh:

 

[DangerousR6]

Hmm, I for one find that these new inlay shapes is another awesome set of options that is a big part of why Warmoth is so great. I applaud you guys for giving us new options and features to choose from almost monthly.

If one would like an inlay option that isn't offered by Warmoth, there's always people that can do it for you. Although, it might cost two or three times more than what Warmoth charges ...

Yes indeed there are, I had one made for my spalted tele from Soulmate necks, with the offset dots. But i think he retired or closed down his business..