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moobox

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Hello all
I'm interested in putting together either a SG or LP. Am I not looking properly but all I see is bolt on neck body options at Warmouth? I would like the Gibson setneck setup and I dont know if that is available really.
Cheers - Ed
 
If you want Warmoth quality, bolt-on is the only option.

Follow Cagey's advice and use threaded inserts on the neck and bolts rather than screws.

I haven't even built my Warmoth V yet, and I am already a convert.

 
Pretty much what AnorakDan said. Warmoth quality is superior to "benefits of set neck vs bolt on" You'll be pleased you went with Warmoth, especially if you get a raw neck and BKPs.  :cool01:
 
For those that prefer set neck  types , I get bodies from Warmoth , and my necks from Carvin ( neck through 24 fret / ebony) .  I have used them for almost 15 years, easy to convert to a set neck / deep tenon . I did it on the last build .

Bolt on's do have distinct advantages from a servicabliity perspective .

I do have several bolt ons in my collection , both Warmoth and Fender  and find no isssues with them .

For me it depends on what the client wants
 
Why do you want a set neck?  If you want it because that's how the SG/LP is made and you want your guitar to be as close a copy of the original as possible, then I can see how one might feel that way.  But seriously, your building a copy.  It's not going to be a Gibson.  So, what difference does it make.

Now if you want a set neck because it is better than a bolt on, I think you'll get a lot of disagreement from the folks on this forum (and elsewhere for that matter) about the validity of that belief.

I'm not really trying to talk you into anything.  Get whatever is right for you, but I felt the same way at one point and now have a completely different view.  I'd much rather have a bolt on like a Warmoth or one of those cheap Tom Anderson Bulldog copies.  :icon_thumright:
 
Thanks for the reponses folks. Yip, most got it right at why I want to go for set neck. Sort of "do it the way the original is" story. And I'm not arguing that set is better than bolt on either. I have strat body and neck from Warmoth and very happy with my purchase there.

So anyway, I think then that I'll go for the bolt on neck. So, would I be getting a LP neck to fit a SG body? Because I see that there are SG bodies up but no SG necks.

Cheers - Ed
 
moobox said:
Thanks for the reponses folks. Yip, most got it right at why I want to go for set neck. Sort of "do it the way the original is" story. And I'm not arguing that set is better than bolt on either. I have strat body and neck from Warmoth and very happy with my purchase there.

So anyway, I think then that I'll go for the bolt on neck. So, would I be getting a LP neck to fit a SG body? Because I see that there are SG bodies up but no SG necks.

Cheers - Ed

Correct. LP neck for the SG if you want that headstock. You can also go with the Warmoth headstock for a PRS vibe.
 
Ahhh...the headstock.  I will be building a Warmoth LP but like Tipperman, I like the Warmoth headstock. The Variax is another good alternative. For an SG, I like the LP headstock. I'm really picky about headstock shapes and there's not any logic to my choices, so it's all what you like but I wouldn't necessarily jump to the LP shape because it's Gibsons.
 
Johnny said:
Ahhh...the headstock.  I will be building a Warmoth LP but like Tipperman, I like the Warmoth headstock. The Variax is another good alternative. For an SG, I like the LP headstock. I'm really picky about headstock shapes and there's not any logic to my choices, so it's all what you like but I wouldn't necessarily jump to the LP shape because it's Gibsons.

Personally... I kinda like having a guitar that someone who knew a little about guitars might mistake for the real thing. A tele that looks enough like a real tele, an LP that looks enough like the real thing... Don't know why, but that's my main goal is to have it look something like a potential special model made by the company, that on closer inspection is obviously completely custom.

But like you said, no logic behind it... just what I prefer.
 
Yip well, that's it for me as well. No logic really. I wanted to build SG/LP with set neck becasue that's the way it was done on the original. I put together a bolt on stratocaster becasue that's the way it was done originally. But I'm not religious about it. I'd like to know more about these threaded inserts. That sounds like a plan.
Cheers - Ed
 
The hardest thing for me to wrap my head around for the longest time is that Warmoth doesn't sell guitars or kits, just parts.  The only stuff on their site that shows a neck attached to a body falls outside the Fender license; Gecko, bass vi, 7/8 series, etc.  Even the gallery pics have the headstock cropped out of the photo.
 
moobox said:
I'd like to know more about these threaded inserts. That sounds like a plan.

Threaded inserts are simply a short metal cylinder or tube that's threaded both internally and externally.

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It allows you to fasten plastic or wooden parts together using a machine screw instead of a wood screw. The advantages are dramatically reduced wear on the receiver hole for parts that may be separated from time to time, and substantially increased clamping pressure, resulting in a tighter joint. They're usually made of zinc, brass or stainless steel.

Aside from the convenience and wearability, you're supposed to get increased sustain and better tone out of the deal. Whether that's true or not is up for grabs. It makes sense that you would, since there would be less energy loss at the neck/body joint. But, whether it's enough less than the standard wood screw method to make a difference hasn't been proven, at least not that I've seen. Still, it makes enough sense to me (and many others) that it gets done all the time. It's not an expensive modification and it doesn't hurt anything, so why not?
 
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