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reluctant-builder

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So, despite some early disheartenment, I've made some progress; the result of patience and good advice from fellow forumites. Thanks, all.

Bridge thimbles are installed and, yes, that finish crack will never go away, but the bridge does a lot to hide it. The dimple in the finish -- which happened when the thimble toppled over and cracked the finish -- is mercifully hidden beneath the pickguard. Fools and babies, after all.
 

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Cagey said:
Cool! I'm glad that worked out for you.

Thanks, Cagey. You and Stub were right on about, once getting the bulk of it pretty snug in the hole, just giving it a good few whacks. I put a washcloth over the thimble heads and drove them ... gently, but firmly ... home. :icon_biggrin:
 
In advance of being protege to mentor tfarny, I installed three of the six tuning machine bushings today. It was tedious, but I've learned to be careful (mostly) and take it slow. I met with good results.

I'm interested to see, tomorrow, how it's done with experience and, I imagine, much more specific tools.
 

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reluctant-builder said:
Cagey said:
Cool! I'm glad that worked out for you.

Thanks, Cagey. You and Stub were right on about, once getting the bulk of it pretty snug in the hole, just giving it a good few whacks. I put a washcloth over the thimble heads and drove them ... gently, but firmly ... home. :icon_biggrin:

I just yesterday finally drilled and filled, then redrilled the holes for the bushings the Schaller Floyd replacement needed on my Candy Tangerine Strat. Then, I used the drill press as an arbor press for the first time, and was quite pleased. Worked like a charm, and no dangerous hammering. Wish I'd have thought to do that in the past.

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Per the advice of many, I've been on the hunt for replacement screws for the Gotoh Kluson tuners. Living in the 'hood, I've found no shortage of hardware stores; there are four that I know of within a mile radius of me ... but the quality of their wares is, well, commensurate with their ghetto locale.

None of them even had screws short nor narrow enough to be adequate replacement for the stock Gotoh screws. Now, I'm not a hardware connoisseur, but when I asked for steel screws, I was shown sheet-metal screws. Is that kosher, or are they crap? Not that it mattered, because none of the screws available were of appropriate dimensions.

I needed some washers, too. I went first to the store farthest from me. Since I hoof it (no car ... subway, bus and on-foot are my modes of transport) around my nabe, it made sense to first cast the net wide and then hit the places closer to my apartment.

At the first store -- run by a guy who looks like he keeps a gimp in the basement: he's got a salt-and-pepper Billy Gibbons beard, but he's bald and his dome looks like an inverted butternut squash (or a Twilight Zone "To Serve Man" alien) -- I talked to a none-too-friendly henchman who thought I was nuts for having calipers and asking for small screws. As for washers, he directed me to some zinc coated ones that were $0.99 a pop for a decent quantity. Still, I passed, figuring the other stores would have similar washers, similarly priced.

Closer to home, I find the selfsame washers, but no screws ... yet these packs were $1.29. I wanted to smack myself, but I'll chalk that $0.60 difference (bought two packs) to better, less frightening, service and keeping a local store in business.

But, the moral is: no quality hardware in -- at least my deep recess of -- Brooklyn.

On a positive note: pups arrived!
 

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So, some progress was made but so, too, was a roadblock encountered. I met up with tfarny today and he was immensely helpful in showing me that the tuning machine bushings could just be driven home, how to deal with those quite temperamental Kluson tuners, and having less trepidation with the drill.

Unfortunately, with regard to the drill, we wound up with not only a broken drill bit but also a broken tuning machine screw. The last of the screws didn't have enough of a pilot hole due to the bit breaking off while drilling it ... and so there wound up being torque enough from insufficient depth to result in a broken screw.

I'm debating what to do. Max is an impressive young dude, surmounting the same problem all by himself (http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=11608.msg219201#msg219201). I'm probably twice his age, but I doubt that I'd meet with similar results ... obviously, being older has nothing to do with being able.

Now that my guitar has two eff-ups to its credit, the one in the body is mine and, peripherally, the one in the headstock is, too ... I wonder if I should just take a drill to the biznatch and see if I can work that broken screw loose all by myself. Or should I just bite the bullet, suck it up that relying on greater experience doesn't necessarily mitigate unfortunate results and just take it to my guitar tech and have him fix it?

All told, it was a good night. I'm grateful for a valuable lesson of when it's better to be bold and when it's best to be exceedingly cautious. I do wish something I do could go off without a hitch but, surely, this adversity will make me appreciate the guitar when she's all ship shape ... err ... right?  :dontknow:
 

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It depends if your tech is the same one that gave you that bizarro setup with the extreme amount of relief on your guitar.  Might be worth a trip into Manhattan for a good tech IMO (or finding a better one nearby).  I reckon it'd be nice to get a final setup at the same time as the repair if it's something fairly tedious you really don't want to risk yourself (I have no clue what your comfort level is).

All told, it's lookin' real perty!
 
Corey P. said:
It depends if your tech is the same one that gave you that bizarro setup with the extreme amount of relief on your guitar.  Might be worth a trip into Manhattan for a good tech IMO (or finding a better one nearby).  I reckon it'd be nice to get a final setup at the same time as the repair if it's something fairly tedious you really don't want to risk yourself (I have no clue what your comfort level is).

All told, it's lookin' real perty!

:icon_scratch: How can you possibly tell how much relief there is in the neck from any of those photos?


anyhow, I used to live in Brooklyn and I rather liked Gary at Fried Guitars on State St. Quiet, unassuming location. Happened across him because he's right down the street from my sister's apartment. Dunno if you've got a tech or if you're happy with him, but Gary's a good guy if you need one.


as for the decision - what's your higher priority: getting it done clean and nice, or getting the satisfaction and experience of doing it yourself? If you get lucky, you might get both, but it's a matter of just deciding what's more important and going with it. Don't make it a painstaking decision
 
dNA said:
:icon_scratch: How can you possibly tell how much relief there is in the neck from any of those photos?
I can't - this was an old complaint about a different guitar in another thread.
 
Yeah, Gary's a good guy. I'd go to him again; he's fixed many an issue, including the one Corey mentioned with my other guitar.

I'm really bummed about the broken screw. I very much want to fix it myself, so I'm looking into how to do that. Per CB's advice, another member solved this same problem pretty effectively: http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=10082.0

I need some sleep. I'm pretty crestfallen but all I'm doing is wishing away a problem that's not going to go away until I, or someone else, fixes it.

Edit: Called Gary this morning and he found the tale behind the broken screw quite amusing, told me to calm down and that it was no big deal, bring it in and he'd fix it. The price he quoted me was really reasonable. I'm going to make the trip this afternoon.
 
Corey P. said:
I can't - this was an old complaint about a different guitar in another thread.

ohhhh. haha. ok, gotcha.


reluctant-builder said:
Yeah, Gary's a good guy. I'd go to him again; he's fixed many an issue, including the one Corey mentioned with my other guitar.
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Edit: Called Gary this morning and he found the tale behind the broken screw quite amusing, told me to calm down and that it was no big deal, bring it in and he'd fix it. The price he quoted me was really reasonable. I'm going to make the trip this afternoon.


Cool! I haven't lived in New York in a couple years, so I'm glad Gary's still there and you're happy workin with him.
 
Took my guitar to Gary. He had the rig CB recommends for screw removal: a piece of tubing with a serrated end, installed in the drill. It took him mere seconds to get it out. He made a dowel and fit it, glued it in, let it set, drilled a new hole and installed the replacement screw. He's a freakin' wizard. Amazingly, it cost me just one assassinated Secretary of the Treasury. (I knew I should have either kept that second bottle of wine for myself or just not have bought it. :P)

He also fixed the filing in the nut slots; they were angled down toward the bridge and instead needed to be angled back toward the headstock. Took away a lot of the sitar sound I was getting. I really can't recommend him highly enough; he's communicative, friendly, totally capable and fair. That's a lot more than I can say about a lot of people, and most guitar techs, I've met.

I'm going to try and wire up the assembly now and see if I can get the thing playable.

 

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CB's method is pretty much what I used, only I couldn't find any appropriate tubing in local stores. Glad you got it fixed, it's a pain, isn't it?
 
I'm going to try and wire up the assembly now and see if I can get the thing playable.

There is no "try", glasshoppa. You're just going to hook up one wire from where it starts to where it ends. And then another. And then another... and after a while, there won't be any more wires to hook up. 
 
Max said:
CB's method is pretty much what I used, only I couldn't find any appropriate tubing in local stores. Glad you got it fixed, it's a pain, isn't it?

It sure is a pain! Thanks. Glad that fixing it was so relatively pain free.

StubHead said:
I'm going to try and wire up the assembly now and see if I can get the thing playable.

There is no "try", glasshoppa. You're just going to hook up one wire from where it starts to where it ends. And then another. And then another... and after a while, there won't be any more wires to hook up.  

Very good point. :icon_biggrin:

I drilled screws for the pickup covers and am going to drill the pickguard screws, before I wire up the assembly. I've got the wires all measured and cut and, thankfully, top routes are pretty bang on, whereas my rear routed Swede needed a lot more slack than I gave it, if I ever wanted to revisit the wiring.

One thing that bugs me about the Jazzmaster versus the Strat is how the pickup covers aren't mounted to the pickguard. Pretty silly, I think.
 

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In my quest to avoid soldering to my potentiometer housings, I decided to drill a hole in the chassis for the roller pots of my Jazzmaster, in which to put an eyelet as a "grounding hub."

Thanks to some advice and reassurance from our own Mayfly, I went ahead with it, after I rigged up a little who-jobby to hold the chassis in place while I drilled. As Borat would say: "Great success!"

At least until I took the soldering iron to the thing. Yeesh. Look at that gob. I'm thinking that zinc-plated screws are not receptive to -- or at least less receptive than the metal of the chassis -- solder. It seemed to not want to heat to the point where I could apply the solder opposite the iron and let it flow. Thankfully, I took off the pots before I set off on this cockamamie adventure.

I drilled well off-center, too. :tard:
 

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