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Thanks for the tip - had not heard of those. I've got an amp project I'm trying to get back to (Basically a 10w push pull JCM800 ) It's a head, been thinking about building it into a cab like the Avatar Vintage 112. BTW - is it just me or have 112 combo's with matching 112 extension cabinets disappeared? Cause it seems like the almost perfect setup. 212 when you want it, 112 when you don't feel like it.
 
Dunno. Everybody and their brother is building little 18 to 30 watt lunchbox heads these days, but you're right - combos are a bit thin on the ground, even though they do make a lot of sense.
 
Sounds good, I'll check it out.  I don't know that much about speakers, really.  I've just heard a lot of great things about Celestion, and I liked the clips I heard. 
 
There are, fundamentally, two types of speakers used to amplify guitars. One is the type such as the Celestion Classic 30 (or "greenback", or Jensens, or  Eminence "British", etc.etc), which are designed to add speaker distortion at some point a little less than their rated max. The others are more hi-fi, PA-type speakers that are designed to evade speaker distortion up to their ratings, which typically exceed 150w. If you like that blatty, farty, classic AC/DC,/Stones tone and aren't too worried about pristine tones, the Celestion 30's are a great choice. If you want a little more headroom, but still "want to rock" a Celestion 75 is a better bet. Many, many other guitarists like to use really clean high-power-rated PA speakers and let the amplifier (+pedals!) take care of all the distortion - they really are two different sounds. Good examples of this tone are early Santana with his JBL's or Duane Allman with his Altec/Lansings.

I'd say probably half the big-name guitarists out there nowadays are running the multiple amp setups pioneered by Steve Morse and Eric Johnson. Typically, you'd run a Marshall-type amp into Celestions, set to midrange to take care of the overdrive, and  a Fender-type amp to pick up the clean highs and lows into JBL's, Black Widows, Eminence PA speakers or such. FWIW Santana (and Bonamassa) are running four amps.....  :o Johnson creeps by with only three these days.

When I heard early Santana & Allman, I immediately chose to run with the PA speakers - I have a pair of Black Widows for big jobs, and an Eminence Beta-12A for littler stuff.

It's ALWAYS easy to add more distortion, but impossible to take it out..... :headbang1:
 
I replaced the Vintage Clubs in my Blue VooDoo with some vintage 30's. Not much of a difference, so I swapped those for some K-100's, big improvement. Much more bottom end, and a lot better drive for heavy distortion... :headbang1:
 
Ah, okay.  Well, I think I'm more in the "have a fantastic clean sound and use pedals to dirty it up if need be" school of thought. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9acguJjsgDg

The K100 apparently is Celestion's new big boy, I though the 75 was it. You can sorta hear a cleaner bass, in the samples. The test they didn't do was run a clean loud signal through the speakers at equivalent volume - you almost have to go by what tones you like to hear others do, and then root out what they were using. Or just do like most of us, spend thousands of dollars over decades buying and trying everything. Now's the time to cue in the rich, elderly unknown uncle who remembered how cute you were at three.... :toothy12:

http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/products/classic/spec.asp?ID=32

When you start to get to the speakers with highest power ratings, they tend to call them "bass and PA speakers" and if you look at the response curves you can see they roll off the highs sharply - but all speakers do that. If you want to experiment sometime hook up to a PA column with tweeters and horns, you'll see why. Sending a trebly signal through bassy speakers sounds very different than sending a bassy signal through treble speakers. I prefer the former, more or less. And people can yak for days and years about this.....
 
I've seen some mix the Vintage 30 with the K-100 and have some cool results, I'm thinking of putting the K-100's in my Blackstar HT-60..
 
Scumback's are also an option.  They are designed to sound like pre rola celestions.  They are more than GWH, but cheaper than Celestion.  I have the GWH vintage 30 knock offs in a 1960A Marshall cab with two stock Celestion G12T75.  It is a very nice sounding cab now.  For the next amp project I am going to try the Scumbacks.  I have read enough to warrant a try with them.  Good luck with the search
Patrick

 
The tubes should be arriving soon.  I think I'll get them all set up wait a few months on the new speaker.  That gives me time to adjust the tubes accordingly and get to know them a little before I start changing things more.  Also, more time to research it. 
 
i'd recommend an eminence swamp thang for cleans. it cleaned up my blues junior nicely.
 
Today I recieved the Fuzz Face.  I like it a lot!  :headbang:  :guitarplayer2:

Fingers crossed for the Whammy to arrive on Friday and the tube set to arrive sooner than that. 
 
Vintage 30's are the way forward, I completely swear by them! When I found a 2x12 cab for £150 with celestion vintage 30's had to snap it up! definitely worth checking out!

http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_g212_vintage.htm?sid=32668072192de6c248315b3c6d897b95
 
The Whammy arrived today!  Such a fun toy.  I'm so glad I have the day off tomorrow so I can play with it all day.  :hello2:
 
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