Index Hole

[duosonic]

Hello,

I'm in the process of purchasing a body and was curious about the index hole and what one looks like on a painted body both solid and transparent.  Does anyone have any pictures they can post of what this looks like?  Not sure if I want to have it filled with MOP or Abalone and so I'm curious to see what it looks like painted with selected the "filled" option.  I'm imagining this big paint divet on the top. 

Thanks
Rob

 

[Strat Avenger]

"Index hole" for what??

 

[line6man]

Are you ordering a body with no bridge pickup?
Most people do not have this issue, unless they are doing piezo-only builds.

 

[line6man]

"Index hole" for what??

Bodies without bridge pickup routes have CNC index holes like this.

 

[Orpheo]

don't you think the warmoth neck pocket is a piece of art? other brands (the one that start with an F, for starters) are ugly; more holes, pilot holes or whatnot.

about that other hole on the bridge pickup pocket: it gets routed out when you get your bridge pickup done. very smart design by Warmoth.

 

[Steve_Karl]

Poor lighting but this is an older shot of mine before the finishing process was completed.
Sorry ... I still haven't gotten around to doing the final pictures. The guitar has been completed for more than 3 weeks.

http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=17328.msg265474#msg265474

 

[Red Rocks]

I think that a transparent finish over a Abalone dot look pretty classy.

 

[duosonic]

Thanks for the picture.  The body in the picture is not painted.  If I have Warmoth paint the body and don't choose an inlay do they just fill the hole with paint or is it visible?

Orpheo, thanks for the clarification on the positioning.  I'm glad to know that hole is where the bridge pickup route will go.  I'm planning to route my own bridge and pickups but wanted to get Warmoth to do the paint.

Thanks,
Rob

 

[Steve_Karl]

You should call warmoth about the paint and visibility issue.
Just make note that if you choose a wood option to fill the hole, they use a dowel rod and the end grain of the dowel rod will be visible.

At least that's how they did it on mine, and that's why I had my luthier drill it out and cut me a plug from a piece of maple top scrap that he had. It was a much better match that way.

 

[Strat Avenger]

I really don't see what the "issue" is. Once the pickup cavities are routed, there is no "hole".  :dontknow:

 

[SkuttleFunk]

if you were to do a piezo only fretless ... there could be an issue depending on your choice of body finish

the advantage to the index holes like they are is that you can re-jig a showcase body to route custom optons even after it's been finished. this is something I can't do with my CNC index pin strategy (pins re outside of the finished body blank area), but I also don't cut a body until I have final lockdown on what it will be

all the best,

R

 

[Strat Avenger]

if you were to do a piezo only fretless ... there could be an issue depending on your choice of body finish

the advantage to the index holes like they are is that you can re-jig a showcase body to route custom options even after it's been finished. this is something I can't do with my CNC index pin strategy (pins re outside of the finished body blank area), but I also don't cut a body until I have final lockdown on what it will be

all the best,

R

But the OP never said he was doing that (unless I missed something). 

 

[SkuttleFunk]

[quote author=Street Avenger]
But the OP never said he was doing that (unless I missed something).
[/quote]

??? Wylie - are you using a second screen name here on the UW board? I don't recall the lay people being deputized as thread content police, so it must be you  ???

since more than just the OP is obviously reading this thread, and since this forum is about sharing knowledge ... it seems appropriate to include discussion about the why for an index hole, no?


if you have issue(s) with my post, feel welcome to drop me an email or PM - I'll kindly respond to either.


all the best,

R

 

[stubhead]

Warmoth must have bent over backwards, jumped through some hoops, pulled out their hair, chased the maid around the table a few times etc. just to be able to route the pickup holes and the whammy slot after the finish is on. Obviously they must sell enough that way to make it worth their while, but it makes no sense from a production standpoint - like specifying "two-door" or "four-door" after the car is already painted.  :icon_scratch:

 

[Strat Avenger]

[quote author=Street Avenger]
But the OP never said he was doing that (unless I missed something).

??? Wylie - are you using a second screen name here on the UW board? I don't recall the lay people being deputized as thread content police, so it must be you  ???

since more than just the OP is obviously reading this thread, and since this forum is about sharing knowledge ... it seems appropriate to include discussion about the why for an index hole, no?


if you have issue(s) with my post, feel welcome to drop me an email or PM - I'll kindly respond to either.


all the best,

R
[/quote]

'Was just trying to figure out why the OP was asking about index holes, that's all.

 

[Wyliee]

[quote author=Street Avenger]
But the OP never said he was doing that (unless I missed something).

??? Wylie - are you using a second screen name here on the UW board? I don't recall the lay people being deputized as thread content police, so it must be you  ??

[/quote]

Nope.  Don't really see anything wrong with the direction(s) of the thread.  We're all good here.

 

[swarfrat]

but it makes no sense from a production standpoint - like specifying "two-door" or "four-door" after the car is already painted.  :icon_scratch:

If you could install the 2nd set of doors with an index pin, template and router, it would. Finished bodies are pretty and sell better to those of us who lack imagination. Or who've learned our imagination is a pretty poor indicator of what finishes will look like.

 

[Cagey]

Finished bodies are pretty and sell better to those of us who lack imagination. Or who've learned our imagination is a pretty poor indicator of what finishes will look like.

I think there may be a little more to it than that. For one thing, applying a professional-grade finish is not a trivial task. For another, it requires a substantial investment in equipment and materials. Finally, there's the issue of ability. Some people have trouble wielding a screwdriver - it would be a bit much to ask them to learn the idiosyncrasies of the gear involved in finish work.

For many, if not most, there would be no buying of bodies/necks at all if the finish work were not available. The Showcase is a good indicator of that. Check how many raw bodies are available vs. finished one. That's probably a good indicator of demand, assuming Warmoth knows what it's doing.