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In news that will surprise no one, Gibson has financial woes

I've never heard that one, but thanks to the wonders of Youtube...

It's got Keith Moon on vocals and what sounds like a French Horn solo!  :headbang1:

 
I've heard that once you french a horn, you can never go back...

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I can't quit you!
 
DarkPenguin said:
In a perfect world Fender buys the brand.


No....in a perfect world PRS buys the brand.  :icon_thumright: 


Introducing the Les Paul Reed Smith!!!
 
-VB- said:
Whoever buys it, I hope they let Warmoth resume manufacture of some o’ them body styles...

It probably wouldn't make sense for whoever buys all that intellectual property for what will undoubtedly be a pretty penny to open source the designs. But, stranger things have happened. IBM basically open-sourced the PC design back in the early '80s when they came up with it, and look where that went.
 
They don't have to let it go for free.  But I imagine that, while licensing deals might not bring in the money a successful lawsuit could, they're also a lot less likely to cost you craploads of money when the judge throws your case out.
 
Cagey said:
It seems incredible today that they got paid to play stuff like that.

You can't compare it to what's come since, only what came before. At the time it was new and exciting, because it wasn't this:
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Cagey said:
It probably wouldn't make sense for whoever buys all that intellectual property for what will undoubtedly be a pretty penny to open source the designs. But, stranger things have happened. IBM basically open-sourced the PC design back in the early '80s when they came up with it, and look where that went.

A guy can dream though...
 
From everything I've read it sounds like all of Gibson's problems stem from the guy at the top, and he seems completely unable to see it. Not sure if you guys are familiar with the website Glassdoor which has reviews of employers by employees. Go check out Gibson's page, it's not pretty. Sounds like they're the hardest on the middle/upper management and therefore have lots of turnover. That's definitely not a good business strategy.

I mean this is Gibson for heaven's sake, the company that invented the LP. The most collectible of all electric guitars! (well the real 59's at least). I think with the history/market share they have it shouldn't be hard to stay in business. It's definitely a different situation than a new company trying to establish itself in the marketplace. But instead Gibson's president seems obsessed with stupid stuff like robot tuners and jacking up the prices on the guitars, plus buying random consumer electronics companies. So I guess I'm a pessimist too but I don't see this ending well.

-VB- said:
Whoever buys it, I hope they let Warmoth resume manufacture of some o’ them body styles...

I'm rooting for this! I know Precision Guitar Kits got into trouble recently for the "accuracy" of their LP kit, and I know Gibson is notorious for protecting its designs. (is it really reasonable to copyright a pretty boring single cutaway guitar body shape?)
 
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overall guitar sell declined after 2000, it a right move for them to diversified not put all eggs in the same basket.

but the poor judgment on execution can be deadly with huge debts to do it.
 
Can I just say I think the new Flying V looks alright.


There, I've said it.

I wouldn't buy one, and certainly not for that amount of money though.

 
This thing is a little interesting as well:

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But again waaaaay too much money for it.
 
I played one of the new Gibby modern double-cuts and it just felt wrong to me.  Heavy, sure, but we all expect that from a Gibson solid-body; but the geometry was weird.  I was playing it seated so I might have had better luck playing while standing and using a strap.  But it wanted to fall backwards.  The opposite of the neck-dive problem we all know and loathe.  But I gotta give the Big G some props for making something pretty for a change, instead of just weird.
 
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