In news that will surprise no one, Gibson has financial woes

[Cagey]

Seven pages later, it occurs to me that the thread should have been titled:

"Gibson takes a nose dive".

Seems appropriate for the company that never figured out strap button geometry in 116 years.

Hehe! Yeah, it would seem so. But, if you review some of their designs, it's not like they had a lotta choice about hanger placement. The early Les Pauls, the SGs, Melody Makers, and some of their acid trip-induced "modern" stuff like Flying Vs, Modernes, Firebirds, Explorers, etc. didn't have anywhere to put the forward hanger but at the neck heel where mean ol' Mr. Physics guaranteed the thing was gonna be out of balance. The mistake was in thinking with their marketing weenies and telling the mechanical engineers to go play in traffic. Not that Mr. Fender was any kind of guiding light when it came to mechanical engineering, but at least he had the foresight to think players might not want to support the neck with their fretting hand :laughing7:

 

[stratamania]

Well, my Les Paul doesn't do neck dive.

I know a lot of folks like to knock Gibson, but they are still an iconic American guitar so I hope their fortunes do turn around.

 

[Cagey]

I was talking about the old double-cutaway Les Pauls they made for a bit. None of the single-cut designs dive, that I'm aware of. They're just so heavy you wish they'd fall off :icon_biggrin:

 

[stratamania]

I was talking about the old double-cutaway Les Pauls they made for a bit. None of the single-cut designs dive, that I'm aware of. They're just so heavy you wish they'd fall off :icon_biggrin:

That is why I have a wide Gibson Leather strap equipped with memory foam (It won't fit in the guitar case though It also makes the strats and Teles feel light.

This is the strap, not cheap but very good.

http://store.gibson.com/the-edge/

 

[Cagey]

I like it - I'll bet it is comfy. Although as attractive as those buckles are, they'd make me give it a pass. My guitars and buckles don't get along. I get buckles near any of my guitars, and they develop that deep, meaningful acne that manifests as craters in their face. Start to look like Bill Murray without any makeup :laughing7:

 

[AirCap]

I like real leather straps, but not with the hardware. About $50 is tops for me, and I'll use those cheapie $5 nylon straps all the time for around the shop - easily adjustable for height from guitar to guitar.

 

[Logrinn]

Seven pages later, it occurs to me that the thread should have been titled:

"Gibson takes a nose dive".

Seems appropriate for the company that never figured out strap button geometry in 116 years.

Neck dive have never been a problem ... :icon_jokercolor:

 

[mayfly]

Loving that whole look - from the amp to the hair!

Bet she sounds as good as she looks 

 

[Cagey]

I see she's got a Tele in the background, so when she's done channeling AC/DC with the SG, she can do some good ol' chick'n pickin'. Get the crowd all riled up so they'll dance and get all sweaty/thirsty/horny.

 

[mayfly]

Note also how the strap is attached to that tele...

 

[Cagey]

I can't tell on the Tele. I did notice the Binford Neck Dive Prevention Strap 6000™ on the SG.

 

[swarfrat]

I'm guessing that's a tremolo tailpiece -I've never seen that particular one before. Anyone know what it is?

 

[AirCap]

I'm guessing that's a tremolo tailpiece -I've never seen that particular one before. Anyone know what it is?

Yes - it's the one year only side to side vibrato that Gibson offered on the what was then called a Les Paul. This is the guitar that made Les Paul pull his permission to use his name from Gibson.

In case anyone is wondering, that is the fantastic Sister Rosetta Tharpe - one of first female rock stars of the early 60's. She played blues and gospel flavored rock and roll with an unforgettable style and fervor. Check some of her vids out on YT. She'll make you an instant fan.

 

[AirCap]

https://www.musicradar.com/news/gibson-creditors-want-new-ceo-before-any-rescue-deal

Looks like Henry's head WILL roll.

 

[mayfly]

https://www.musicradar.com/news/gibson-creditors-want-new-ceo-before-any-rescue-deal

Looks like Henry's head WILL roll.

Henry makes me laugh - nothing like blaming other people for your problems 

 

[swarfrat]

Not to mention - like I tell young programmers at work:

Arguing with the compiler is like arguing with your wife. You're probably wrong. But even if you ARE right, it STILL doesn't matter. You're not getting anywhere until you make it happy.

"The market doesn't appreciate genius" is not likely appease investors. That's part of the problem set you're given to work with.

 

[Cagey]

Juszkiewicz associated many of Gibson's problems with the guitar industry’s unwillingness to embrace innovation, a lack of new players and problems with retail in general.

Hehe! What a maroon! "Be reasonable! Do it my way!"

I especially like Swarfrat's...

Arguing with the compiler is like arguing with your wife. You're probably wrong. But even if you ARE right, it STILL doesn't matter. You're not getting anywhere until you make it happy.

Been there, done that.

 

[stratamania]

I like it - I'll bet it is comfy. Although as attractive as those buckles are, they'd make me give it a pass. My guitars and buckles don't get along. I get buckles near any of my guitars, and they develop that deep, meaningful acne that manifests as craters in their face. Start to look like Bill Murray without any makeup :laughing7:

Yes it is comfy. But yes I am careful with those buckles.

 

[stratamania]

I like real leather straps, but not with the hardware. About $50 is tops for me, and I'll use those cheapie $5 nylon straps all the time for around the shop - easily adjustable for height from guitar to guitar.

Most times I would not pay as much for a strap, but after buying the Les Paul, I was flush at the time and thought what the heck. Worth it for the comfort factor. Not worth it for a strat or lighter guitar though.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

I'm guessing that's a tremolo tailpiece -I've never seen that particular one before. Anyone know what it is?

Yes - it's the one year only side to side vibrato that Gibson offered on the what was then called a Les Paul. This is the guitar that made Les Paul pull his permission to use his name from Gibson.

In case anyone is wondering, that is the fantastic Sister Rosetta Tharpe - one of first female rock stars of the early 60's. She played blues and gospel flavored rock and roll with an unforgettable style and fervor. Check some of her vids out on YT. She'll make you an instant fan.

She was ahead of her time, as a woman, and as a black person, but a black woman!  She didn't get on a political platform either, she said it all in her songs and in her playing.