in need of new pickups
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Wana_make_a_guitar
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Orpheo, when you find this pickup. I want one.
bpmorton777
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try a bunch of different GFS pickups...they are cheap enough to get a couple at a time. they have a wide variety.
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Orpheo said:
Maybe the problem is the amp. Just because it's got a brand name stamped on it doesn't necessarily prove it kicks ass (Marshall put out alotta stinkers in their day and continue to do so).
So, if the amp has "all the gain you need", then you don't need higher output pickups - mayhaps you need to try some different t00bs in that amp...
or, like many new t00b amps, it needs to be biased correctly (lots of manu's send out their amps biased cold to save t00bs; this can contribute to mush).
or, maybe the speakers don't jive with the rest of your rig.
It's all about balance with everything in your rig; not just the geetar.
Formula for tone =
Geetar
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Everything 'tween geetar and speaker
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Speaker
*not*
Just geetar
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Orpheo said:
What's low output for you?
I'm talking around 8K (although the DC resistance isn't a dead-on measurement of output, it's a decent ballpark thing), not 13K or thereabouts (that's medium output). 16K is going into hi-output land.
Superlizard said:
well, this post can only mean one thing: you have no idea what the Engl SE is...the Engl SE is for me the pinacle of amplifiers. THE best amplifier there is,in combination with my cab. the guitar is great, I'm not a shabby player eather, its just that the pickups are the weakest link. I can hear that VERY clearly on my amp.
low output for me? 57 classic and burstbuckers, by gibson, the BBQ/tx set... kinda low output for me. too low, actually. the dimarzio d sonic, well, its dimarzio. its not really high end. I want to have the best pickups around. that simple. everything else than that will give me a ' not quite yet' feeling.
I'm thinking of the q-tuners. they seem to be great, with a huge frequency range, lots of output, kinda hifi.
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Orpheo said:
Alright, take a deep breath first, and listen - you wanted suggestions.
Consider for one the tubes in your amp... sure, I'm sure the Engl amp is a great amp. However, maybe - just maybe the tubes it uses *aren't* the pinnacle. Especially considering (if one is knowledgeable about t00bs) the sh!te current production t00bs that are pumped out today.
As well - biasing the power t00bs cold by the manufacturers is a *known* fact and very common even among the big names.
You're making the assumption that your amp is t!ts; using only the finest t00bs, biased at the sweet spot... based on the name only.
Do you even know what brand t00bs your amp uses?
This has been a suggestion - the possibility exists that you have a great amp there, but it may be using crap tubes and/or it may be biased cold. It doesn't matter if the big shiny nametag says "ENGL", "Fender", "Marshall" or "BigBadAssMondoPinnacleTone"... until you check, you'll never know for sure.
And you don't troubleshoot & solve issues by making assumptions.
If you've never gotten good tone, and you *assume* the amp is not the problem, and that the guitar is not the problem, but you change the pickups a dozen times, which never makes a significant improvement, continuing to assume that the pickups (which have been repeatedly changed) are the problem, as opposed to the amp or guitar (which have not), seems potentially a little bit illogical.
Also note, the Engl Special Edition has very extensive controls:
We're not talking some hyper simple, pure circuit like you would find in a Dr. Z amp or other vintage-style boutique. With all of the various tone shaping circuitry your signal is going through, the more possibility there is that your amp settings have something to do with your perceived pickup problem.
Your mileage may vary!
Also note, the Engl Special Edition has very extensive controls:
We're not talking some hyper simple, pure circuit like you would find in a Dr. Z amp or other vintage-style boutique. With all of the various tone shaping circuitry your signal is going through, the more possibility there is that your amp settings have something to do with your perceived pickup problem.
Your mileage may vary!
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Orpheo said:
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I'm not getting this at all... "the amp sounds great".
What's coming outta the amp is everything else preceeding it in the signal chain... guitar, pickups, etc...
So, if it sounds "great", WTFOVERBBQ do you need new pickups for?
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I fold.
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Orpheo,
what could it hurt to take your amp down to the shop for a tune-up? SL has some very good suggestions here and neuftone was right...that thing looks like the controls on a space ship.
Brian
what could it hurt to take your amp down to the shop for a tune-up? SL has some very good suggestions here and neuftone was right...that thing looks like the controls on a space ship.
Brian
Because its not the amp. The amp is less than a year old, and when I bought it, she was checked up, and worked like a charm. as I said, the things I hear (or: don't hear!) with the Engl, are heard too on other amps, but much, much worse! if its not the guitar, since I hear what I wanna hear unplugged, if its not the amp (read above why), it must be the weakest link here: the pickup.bpmorton777 said:
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then make up a list of pickups you would consider and let people here give you feedback on the ones they have used?
Brian
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