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I'm not a big fan of the SG, but,...................

jackthehack said:
...Never broke one, there's not a problem with the neck joint or headstock, you're NOT supposed to drop them/use them as bludgeons/bang mike stands/go Pete Townsend on them in general.

Exactly, I have mine 17 years. Not a single problem with the neck joint or the headstock. Easy guitar to play, seated or standing up.
 
jackthehack said:
I bought/owned those SGs in the early 70's, paid $90 for the Jr., the Special was around $150 bucks (don't remember exactly but close to that) and the '73 in a pawn shop in SF for $225 with a Gibson hard shell case.Back then you could buy no end of what are now considered "vintage" guitars 50's/60's Gibsons/Fenders for less than $300 in pawn shops or the like

Ah, those were the days ... when a guitar was just a guitar. Not some iconic behemoth that some retard figured was worth its weight in gold put out of reach for most musicians so they hang unplayed (and they want to be played) in a glass case on the wall of some rich person as a status symbol ... sic.

Sorry
 
Max said:

anyone know what kind of blue this is? i've been wanting this for a tele... closest i could find is lake placid blue but it's not quite what i want. this looks like it has more gray in it
 
Blue ice is probably closer than Lake Placid - both are nice colors though.
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Barrette said:
Max said:

anyone know what kind of blue this is? i've been wanting this for a tele... closest i could find is lake placid blue but it's not quite what i want. this looks like it has more gray in it
Pelham blue. I don't think Warmoth offers it, but it never hurts to call. If they don't do it, and you don't want it painted by a third party, I think blue ice is your best bet.
 
I've been told, but cant say for sure, that Pelham blue is the exact same paint as Lake Placid blue... or very very close.  Most of the PB we see today,  on old Gibsons has yellowed quite a bit, into a very deep greenish blue.  Seems the Gibson lacquer was more prone to  yellowing than Fender lacquer.  I'm sure Tonar would have the complete birdseye-lowdown on this.
 
OK I'll take on board the comments about the strength of the SGs in opposition to my past comment on this Thread.

My opinion cam from not owning one, but seeing a freind of mine lose his SG's headstock clean off after one half decent knock onto a door frame & trying out a  couple of used SGs for sale that I tired out & appeared to struggle to stay in tune even with old strings on and solid Grovers at the headstock. And yes, I gave the neck a push and they wavered in pitch through the amp.

That said though, I have always been a fan of the early 60s cherry red dyed SG with the Maestro vibrato piece. Like the one that George Harrison played with the Beatles in the mid 60s then gave to Pete Ham of Badfinger.

That and an old one that Angus used inthe early days of AC/DC that was walnut stained - or at least looked like that - after he had sweated tons of sweat over the finish!
 
If he broke the headstock off, he's lucky, those are easy to fix... and LPs break there all the time.  The SG weakness is the body-neck joint which has a lot less wood to wood than other guitars.  As for staying in tune, "even with Grovers", tuners dont help the guitar stay in tune.  I dont see underlying SG faults with "staying in tune", but you're right the necks do let you do vibrato on demand!  I got two, had a third for a short time but sent it back.  Two I got... good guitars, solid.  Zero issues.
 
This is Fender Japan's version of "Old Lake Placid Blue" which is the best of the comfusing mess of colors in this range (in my opinion). Some old classic cars have these with the nice white stripe down the middle. Changes at different angles but this photo is a good representation of it

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Max said:

THIS guitar, tricked up with some body binding and 'LP custom' inlay design on the neck (also with binding) would have me on the floor! Is that a current design from Gibson or a one off?
 
OzziePete said:
Max said:

THIS guitar, tricked up with some body binding and 'LP custom' inlay design on the neck (also with binding) would have me on the floor! Is that a current design from Gibson or a one off?
Discontinued limited run batch, I think.
 
DangerousR6 said:
Never cared much for the flat top Lp's, they just look strange for some reason.... :dontknow:

i'll definitely second that. if it's a flat top or has no binding it just looks wrong. except on LP Juniors and Melody Makers. they're all about minimalism, so it works. the double cutaways look good as flat tops to me too.
 
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