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I'll never stray from Warmoth again... Lesson Learned.

Tservo

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BHefner.
I have always used Warmoth and decided this one time to try another vendor... mistake.

I won't buy from him again.. What I got wouldn't pass for second quality at the guitar factory I used to work for (Charvel) in Japan...

I ordered a 50's hardtail strat.. alder. Supposedly designed "accurately" for 50's style hardware, I assumed...

Plus it's a 50's "Strat" that is supposed to have authentic strat contours and features" yet the bridge is drilled for an import hardtail..? String Spacing is all wrong... crap.

The glue seam is way off center, under the high e string ffs, NO attempt at grain matching, organic stains and a big ass knot on the lower bout which feels like a damn tumor when you run your finger over it. so much for a burst paint job...
Sorry Bernie, this thing sucks.
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Warmoth can expect an order from me soon.
 
Actually I did it just to try another vendor...

Looks like this one came from those stacks of 50 dollar bodies you'd see at the Dallas guitar show...

I didn't do my homework, guilty as charged...  :-\

I have read he's a bit of a pain to deal with, so I'll just return it by posting pics of it.

That's worth 120 bucks to me alone.. :-)
 
Tservo,

I have to ask if you've tried to contact the vendor with your complaint?  Speaking from experience, it can be incredibly frustrating to see a customer complaining about a purchase on the interwebs that have not tried contacting us for resolution.  We've seen that here more than a few times.  It is a courtesy I would hope board members would extend to Warmoth as well as other vendors.

:rock-on:
 
Wyliee said:
Tservo,

I have to ask if you've tried to contact the vendor with your complaint?  Speaking from experience, it can be incredibly frustrating to see a customer complaining about a purchase on the interwebs that have not tried contacting us for resolution.  We've seen that here more than a few times.  It is a courtesy I would hope board members would extend to Warmoth as well as other vendors.

:rock-on:
I know that this is coming from a higher source than me

and I agree 100 percent

but this shows how much Warmoth does care about our business, when they ask you to contact another vendor

I have seen guys try to blast warmoth here without contacting them, and I spoke out about it, I am glad Warmoth is doing the same here, I think it speaks tons about them
 
Straight from B. Hefner's website...

"We guaranty you the finest in materials and workmanship AND WE BACK THAT WITH A ONE YEAR WARRANTY ON WORKMANSHIP AND MATERIALS, THE OTHER COMPANIES DON'T; all of our parts are made in our factory right here in Southern California."
 
Wyliee said:
Tservo,

I have to ask if you've tried to contact the vendor with your complaint?  Speaking from experience, it can be incredibly frustrating to see a customer complaining about a purchase on the interwebs that have not tried contacting us for resolution.  We've seen that here more than a few times.  It is a courtesy I would hope board members would extend to Warmoth as well as other vendors.

:rock-on:

From what I experienced with warmoth, there's little or nothing to complain about, except for ONE thing: having all the frets already leveled and crowned. if that could be done (perhaps for an upcharge), that would be great.
 
Other than the hardtail bridge, 50s vintage quality is pretty different piece to piece anyways, wasn't it?  By having the body contours mismatched and glue joints sloppy, isn't that close to 50s quality?  I mean, there were reasons that solid colors and bursts with black edges were used.  50s pickups were a crapshoot, the good ones were the ones that had oops that weren't wound to specs.  Clapton's "Blackie" took 3 guitars to get one good one.  Even the Vintage spec stuff made now isn't a Vintage copy, but rather what was the Vintage intention.
 
Super Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
Other than the hardtail bridge, 50s vintage quality is pretty different piece to piece anyways, wasn't it?  By having the body contours mismatched and glue joints sloppy, isn't that close to 50s quality?  I mean, there were reasons that solid colors and bursts with black edges were used.  50s pickups were a crapshoot, the good ones were the ones that had oops that weren't wound to specs.  Clapton's "Blackie" took 3 guitars to get one good one.  Even the Vintage spec stuff made now isn't a Vintage copy, but rather what was the Vintage intention.

All absolutely true. You never knew what you were getting back then. Hell, even into the '70s you had to sit down and play 6 or 7 guitars to find one the sounded/felt right, and it may not be the ultimate. That's why you hear these stories about "the one that got away". Most players that have been around for a while have one of those tales to tell.

It wasn't until the late '80s, early '90s that everybody started using CNC machines. Once that happened, you got some predictability and repeatability, and even the imports improved in quality so much that Gibson got marginalized. Only the deep-rooted faithful will buy their products now; they're like Apple Computer fans.
 
Orpheo said:
Wyliee said:
Tservo,

I have to ask if you've tried to contact the vendor with your complaint?  Speaking from experience, it can be incredibly frustrating to see a customer complaining about a purchase on the interwebs that have not tried contacting us for resolution.  We've seen that here more than a few times.  It is a courtesy I would hope board members would extend to Warmoth as well as other vendors.

:rock-on:

From what I experienced with warmoth, there's little or nothing to complain about, except for ONE thing: having all the frets already leveled and crowned. if that could be done (perhaps for an upcharge), that would be great.

Since Warmoth is a guitar parts company, and not a guitar manufacturer, there's really no reason for them to be doing fret-leveling. That is the job of a luthier (or the customer, if he/she knows how to do that sort of thing).
 
I wonder which is more tiring. people casually voicing wants and wishes to friends. or people explaining to those people the finer details of business.
 
AGWANANA-RAMA said:
I wonder which is more tiring. people casually voicing wants and wishes to friends. or people explaining to those people the finer details of business.

Sometimes wants and wishes need an explanation for not being granted. 
 
AGWANANA-RAMA said:
I wonder which is more tiring. people casually voicing wants and wishes to friends. or people explaining to those people the finer details of business.

Whatever that means...
 
Street Avenger said:
AGWANANA-RAMA said:
I wonder which is more tiring. people casually voicing wants and wishes to friends. or people explaining to those people the finer details of business.

Whatever that means...

It means ...WE MUST DO BATTLE ON THE FIELDS OF VALHALLA!

Nah, It just seems the Why Nots get explained a lot around here, often to people who have had a good deal of time to already learn them. And while I get why its done that way. I do kinda wish dreamers could be left dreaming.

not really a side to take there.
 
DangerousR6 said:
Straight from B. Hefner's website...

"We guaranty you the finest in materials and workmanship AND WE BACK THAT WITH A ONE YEAR WARRANTY ON WORKMANSHIP AND MATERIALS, THE OTHER COMPANIES DON'T; all of our parts are made in our factory right here in Southern California."

Wrong usage of a semi-colon.
 
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