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Humbled by a cheap guitar

Wizard of Wailing

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      Today I took my daughter to her weekly piano lesson.  While she's busy with that, I play the guitars at the music store.  There was a used $85 Made in China Ibanez in the shop today and I was tearing it up on this thing.  It sounded great, played as awesome as any guitar I own,  and stayed in tune through a half an hour of abuse.  No, I didn't buy it (my wife doesn't play music and wouldn't understand why I was getting another guitar).  So I left the music bummed that an $85 guitar had humbled me and my guitar snobbery.  Sometimes (just for a brief moment),  I hate being a guitarist.
 
I bought a 1989 first run Fenix strat on ebay earlier this year for £89. It's my 6th or 7th. It gives my  40th Anniversary american Fender strat a proper run for its money. Sometimes guitars just "work". My theory on the Fenix is that Young Change really, really wanted a slice of the market so used the skills they'd built up making Squiers to try to carve their own margin and undercut the former bosses. Canny move. Ended in pain though. Fender got pissed off with them.
 
Chinese factories can turn out some top shelf stuff if you really, really keep on top of the QC. I have a Ventura--the current company headquartered out of TX, not the maker of Gibby clones in the 70's--acoustic/electric with Fishman pickup and pre-amp. All solid, cedar top/mahogany back and sides. When I bought it the regular retail price was $495. That's right, and all solid flat top under five hundred bucks. When my brother played it he said, "Now I just feel like an boom-boom for paying two grand for my Martin."

I have said for years, never ever ever dismiss a guitar because of the price tag or the name on the headstock.
 
That happens sometimes and it is very interesting. I still have the lowest possible level Yamaha strat copy I got for $79 when I started playing music again about five years ago. It started life out as part of some guitar and amp starter kit. I can't explain how much I like the sound of it and like playing it regardless of my small collection of successful parts guitars that are head and shoulders above. But it speaks really well of you that you got a guitar like that sounding great and enjoying playing it. That indicates you got tone man.  :laughing7:
 
Awesome thread.  I wish I still had my first guitar - a Fender Squire HSS with three toggle switches and the smallest neck imaginable.  Had a blast with that thing.
 
At one point, just after my first marriage and the initial iteration of my legal career imploded, I had sold off all my electric gear to make ends meet.  My brother gave me his Peavey Predator Strat-knockoff to help me keep my head up, and it is one of the most thoughtful gifts I have ever receieved.  I played it stock for a couple years, and it was a damn solid guitar, apart from its somewhat thin sounding pickups.  I swapped in a preloaded Carvin pickguard and it's just bulletproof now.  I have since entrusted the axe to my 15-year-old son, who is about three months into his guitar adventure.  I was and continue to be humbled by that cheap-ass guitarnot because of its surprising playability, but by what it symbolizes in my life - the love of my family. 


Surprisingly, I have no photos of this guitar, but it is basically this one:


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Craigslist has one in black for $95 today, so there you go.


Edit:  This is technically a photo of the guitar, although it's more properly a photo of my nephew (left) playing my Carmoth (Warvin?) Strat, and my son (right) playing the Peavey.


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Yours in holiday cheer,


Bagman.



 
Thumbs up to that story. Also to the very nice photo of your nephew and son. Thanks for sharing.
 
Here's my favorite cheep guitar. It's a '64 Hagstrom H2 that I picked up for $115 dollars in 1971. It's been re-finished, re-painted, re-routed, re-wired, and changed over to humbuckers from single coils. I even had to make my own pick guard to make things fit.

One thing however has never changed: It's still one of the easiest playing guitars you'll ever pick up. It's got he old style "H" type truss rod and the super thin neck has stayed absolutely straight through all I've put it through. I played it in a garage band when I was 17, and I still play it today.

(Please pardon the elaborate presentation and home spun company logo, I tend to get carried away in Photoshop.)
 

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A few years ago I tested out a ~£200 Squier Duo-Sonic against a real 1957 Fender Duo-Sonic which was priced somewhere north of £3,000. Perhaps it's not so surprising, given the age, but the new Squier felt, played and sounded far better than the old guitar. Sure, it wouldn't have impressed any collectors, but if you're going to actually play the instrument, old, expensive guitars are rarely worth giving a second thought to.

I sold my £4,000 Gibson Custom Shop '59 VOS Historic Reissue Les Paul because the £400 Epiphone Joe Perry Les Paul I had sounded and felt better to me, and I enjoyed playing it more. Every single other person around thought I was insane, of course, and they all preferred the Gibson. Objectively, the Gibson was a far superior instrument. Far superior.

But get them in my hands and the Epiphone felt better, and it got me closer to the sound I had in my head. 1/10th the price, mass-produced by under-paid workers in a Korean factory, and it gets the job done better, for me.

A few years later, I pick up a B-stock Epiphone LP Studio, just because it looked nice (white & gold) and had the price dramatically reduced. I figured it could be an okay backup or 'rough' guitar in case I happen to be playing in one of the shadier towns. Within about 4 months it had become my main guitar. It still is my main guitar. £130 and if I had to, I'd pay ten times that to have another of these.

I've lost track of how much I've spent on parts companies like Warmoth, and no matter how personalised the builds may be, no matter how expensive they are, no matter how many hours I throw into putting them together and setting them up 'perfectly', I still reach for those mass-produced, generic Epiphones.

At various times I've been playing with rigs well over the five-figure mark. A few thousands on a guitar, a few thousand on an amp and cab, a thousand or so on pedals and accessories. I keep going back to generic MIK/MIC guitars, mostly around £250, and a stock, 'affordable' Marshall JVM. Hindsight being what it is, I realise I probably could have saved several years' salary if I'd always simply stuck with this gear and never bought into the notion that more expensive, custom, vintage and 'boutique' guitars, amps, pedals and pickups sound or play better than cheap, generic equivalents.

Always give cheap stuff a go. If it feels, sounds and looks good to you, stick with it. Nobody in the audience cares how much you spent on your gear. You don't get on the stage with the price tag still dangling off the headstock. (Unless you're Spinal Tap.)
 
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