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But I need help figuring some stuff out.
My friend had this stuff for years and he never used it. To make a long convoluted story short. he was in a band who used it. then the band broke up, but it stayed with this singer, who starteda new band and used it, then that band broke up and he wasn't part of it anymore, then the guys he played with started a new band and ended up with the stuff and my friend just barely got it back after 2 years of not seeming to care much about it. He'll let it go for less than 1K, if we want it, but theres some things I need to complete it also.
Its all old. I think mostly 80s stuff. The main speakers are "Pyle Pro" which I think only does Car audio now. The subs are Peavey, so is the amp. and the mixer is a Mackie.
I'll start with the amp.
It says its 1100 watts @ 550 a side. Just in case the pictures are too grainy I'll type out what they all say.
the 2nd picture by the inputs says:
The top left switch: DDT - Enable or Defeat (i have no idea what this is about)
The top right: Bridge or Stereo pretty standard stuff
Then the last Picture by the Outputs:
425 W/4 Ohms 41.2V RMS Per Channel
550 W/2 Ohms 33.1V RMS Per Channel
2 Ohms Minimum Load
Speaker Jacks Paralleled
I understand how the wattage changes with the impedance but I don't know what the Voltage and RMS is all about.
It also says down by the power cord: 120 VAC 60Hz 1200 Watts
Then the main Speakers and the Subs:
The Panel for the mains speakers reads:
Power Handling: 1200 Watts
Freq Response 30-20kHz
SPL: 108dB
Impedance: 8 Ohms
I figure the 2 most important values are the impedence and power handling. I have no idea what SPL means.
Panel for the Subs:
Max Power: 700W RMS (program) 350W RMS (53V RMS CONT.)
Impedance 8 Ohms.
I have no idea how to read into this.
The mixer is pretty standard stuff.. Its just dirty. the pots need to be cleaned. But its in good shape considering what its been through.
Right now we've got the main speakers hooked up to the amp through channel A in Bridge mode with the cabinets connected in Series. Apparently thats how they've done it most of the time anyway. We're not pushing it hard we're just testing it to see if it works and all we've got hooked into it is a couple vocal mics and a keyboard. and it plays nice and loud if we want it do, but we dont really turn it up any louder than being able to hear it above the drums.
I keep hearing OPINIONS about how this should be used but nobody has actually given me any facts or literature to check out. This strikes me as a good deal though even with the added cost of actually getting the rest. BUT I don't knwo what to get.
Here is what I THINK I need and I'm getting about 2 or 3 pro's with real gear around town to come down to the rehearsal space to check it out too, but i'm trying to gather all the info I need.
As far as I speculate this is what I figure. I'll trust the 350 watt sign on the back of the subs. So I can hook up the subs to the amp we've got in stereo and we should be good. thats 550 watts from the amp fed into each speaker cab. (to follow with the old wives tale that you should use a little more power from the amp than what the speakers are rated for) and I'd do this because the main speakers would need a lot more juice to run in stereo (or bridged for that matter) at a volume appropriate for a gig.
So what I would need to buy would be an amp at least capable of pumping out 1200 watts per side to the main speakers and a Crossover for the 2 amps. yes? We have in-ear monitors so we dont have to worry about wedges and a 3rd amp.
Here is my question.
I've been told by some people (dj's) that you should use an amp rated for about 1.5 times the power of the speaker rating because you can always turn the volume down if you're getting distortion through the speakers, whereas if you have an underpowered amp for the speakers, then the amp might be in trouble.. for some.. arbitrary reason. So what is the truth?
Thats also not taking into account impedance. I've noticed as a loose rule of thumb, everytime you double the impedance you halve the wattage. I saw an amp on ebay that said it was 2400 watts, 1200 a side @ 2 ohms. so of course If i hooked these 8 ohm speakers into the amp they'd each be getting somewhere around 300 watts each in stereo right? SO even tho the amp is rated at 1200 a side and the speakers are 1200 watts each. its really like hooking up a 300 watt amp to 1200 watt speakers. as far as I can figure. SO if this was the case what would be the problem? aside from not having as much head room to push the volume? is the amp in trouble in this case? Nobody has been terribly clear in this case.
And like I said I have no idea what the panel on the back of the subs are trying to tell me. is that 700 bridged / 350 stereo or what?
I need some help. We have a gig in 2 weeks that we're most likely going to be using this equipment for. This coming saturday I'll be able to buy whatever I need to for it. But I need to make sure we know its reliable and everything and get a few practices in with it all hooked up to make sure we know how to use it.
Otherwise we'll be renting obviously.
Let me know what i've got right.. if any of it is. and What I should do.
Thanks in advance. Sorry for the novel length post.
My friend had this stuff for years and he never used it. To make a long convoluted story short. he was in a band who used it. then the band broke up, but it stayed with this singer, who starteda new band and used it, then that band broke up and he wasn't part of it anymore, then the guys he played with started a new band and ended up with the stuff and my friend just barely got it back after 2 years of not seeming to care much about it. He'll let it go for less than 1K, if we want it, but theres some things I need to complete it also.
Its all old. I think mostly 80s stuff. The main speakers are "Pyle Pro" which I think only does Car audio now. The subs are Peavey, so is the amp. and the mixer is a Mackie.
I'll start with the amp.



It says its 1100 watts @ 550 a side. Just in case the pictures are too grainy I'll type out what they all say.
the 2nd picture by the inputs says:
The top left switch: DDT - Enable or Defeat (i have no idea what this is about)
The top right: Bridge or Stereo pretty standard stuff
Then the last Picture by the Outputs:
425 W/4 Ohms 41.2V RMS Per Channel
550 W/2 Ohms 33.1V RMS Per Channel
2 Ohms Minimum Load
Speaker Jacks Paralleled
I understand how the wattage changes with the impedance but I don't know what the Voltage and RMS is all about.
It also says down by the power cord: 120 VAC 60Hz 1200 Watts
Then the main Speakers and the Subs:


The Panel for the mains speakers reads:
Power Handling: 1200 Watts
Freq Response 30-20kHz
SPL: 108dB
Impedance: 8 Ohms
I figure the 2 most important values are the impedence and power handling. I have no idea what SPL means.
Panel for the Subs:
Max Power: 700W RMS (program) 350W RMS (53V RMS CONT.)
Impedance 8 Ohms.
I have no idea how to read into this.
The mixer is pretty standard stuff.. Its just dirty. the pots need to be cleaned. But its in good shape considering what its been through.

Right now we've got the main speakers hooked up to the amp through channel A in Bridge mode with the cabinets connected in Series. Apparently thats how they've done it most of the time anyway. We're not pushing it hard we're just testing it to see if it works and all we've got hooked into it is a couple vocal mics and a keyboard. and it plays nice and loud if we want it do, but we dont really turn it up any louder than being able to hear it above the drums.
I keep hearing OPINIONS about how this should be used but nobody has actually given me any facts or literature to check out. This strikes me as a good deal though even with the added cost of actually getting the rest. BUT I don't knwo what to get.
Here is what I THINK I need and I'm getting about 2 or 3 pro's with real gear around town to come down to the rehearsal space to check it out too, but i'm trying to gather all the info I need.
As far as I speculate this is what I figure. I'll trust the 350 watt sign on the back of the subs. So I can hook up the subs to the amp we've got in stereo and we should be good. thats 550 watts from the amp fed into each speaker cab. (to follow with the old wives tale that you should use a little more power from the amp than what the speakers are rated for) and I'd do this because the main speakers would need a lot more juice to run in stereo (or bridged for that matter) at a volume appropriate for a gig.
So what I would need to buy would be an amp at least capable of pumping out 1200 watts per side to the main speakers and a Crossover for the 2 amps. yes? We have in-ear monitors so we dont have to worry about wedges and a 3rd amp.
Here is my question.
I've been told by some people (dj's) that you should use an amp rated for about 1.5 times the power of the speaker rating because you can always turn the volume down if you're getting distortion through the speakers, whereas if you have an underpowered amp for the speakers, then the amp might be in trouble.. for some.. arbitrary reason. So what is the truth?
Thats also not taking into account impedance. I've noticed as a loose rule of thumb, everytime you double the impedance you halve the wattage. I saw an amp on ebay that said it was 2400 watts, 1200 a side @ 2 ohms. so of course If i hooked these 8 ohm speakers into the amp they'd each be getting somewhere around 300 watts each in stereo right? SO even tho the amp is rated at 1200 a side and the speakers are 1200 watts each. its really like hooking up a 300 watt amp to 1200 watt speakers. as far as I can figure. SO if this was the case what would be the problem? aside from not having as much head room to push the volume? is the amp in trouble in this case? Nobody has been terribly clear in this case.
And like I said I have no idea what the panel on the back of the subs are trying to tell me. is that 700 bridged / 350 stereo or what?
I need some help. We have a gig in 2 weeks that we're most likely going to be using this equipment for. This coming saturday I'll be able to buy whatever I need to for it. But I need to make sure we know its reliable and everything and get a few practices in with it all hooked up to make sure we know how to use it.
Otherwise we'll be renting obviously.
Let me know what i've got right.. if any of it is. and What I should do.
Thanks in advance. Sorry for the novel length post.