so i was at the local guitar store comparing delay pedals and i started thinking about how much i need a decent amp, so i plugged in to a few of em. a blues junior, a peavy valve king, and a peavy blues clasic.. i have played hot rod deluxes before and dont care for them but i like the 4X10 hotrod deville clean channel. my favorite lead sound of what i tried was the blues junior although the blues classic was also good. the valveking was versitile and i like the clean sounds but to get a lead sound that i liked i have to press a button on the back of the amp which is annoying but the sound was decent yet not as good as the other two, i apreciate the adjustability of it though. is there an amp out there that can get the creamy and fat overdriven tones of the blues junior but clean up like a hotrod deville or the valve king? im not really an amp guru (yet). the blues junior does one thing great and the valve king did alot of things but was only 85-90% of what i wanted, is there a perfect amp out there that's not too complicated?
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If you even halfway liked any of those amps, you'd love a Bugera V22 or V55. They're 22 and 55 watts, respectively, but are otherwise identical. So, you pick one depending on how much clean headroom you need. But, for gigging, the V22 is probably all you need for most venues.
yeah i need to see if they carry those in middletown, i really dont want to deal with sam ash or guitar center unless i absolutely have to. im not too impressed with the youtube demos though. but i need to try it for myself in pentode and triode modes.
i really want two amps now. but which one to buy first?
i really want two amps now. but which one to buy first?
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Dan025 said:
Hey Dan,
I am not sure where you live, but if you can avoid it, do not buy a Blues Junior from one of the chain music stores.
Guitar Center list them for $600. I got mine on Craig's List for $325. Also check fleabay.
There are a lot of good used Blues Juniors out there...
oh i was talking about the bugera, you posted while i was posting.
the blues junior is at a local store and is about what you paid. i was gettin great blues tones through the peavy blues clasic and thought "i love this amp" then i plugged in to the fender and was like that peavy is ok this thing rocks, but i still want the great clean tones of other amps
the blues junior is at a local store and is about what you paid. i was gettin great blues tones through the peavy blues clasic and thought "i love this amp" then i plugged in to the fender and was like that peavy is ok this thing rocks, but i still want the great clean tones of other amps
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That should tell you something... like: people are getting rid of them. Now go looking for used V22s - they're almost non-existent. Almost all the V22 listings on eBay are for new units. That should tell you something, too: they're popular. They're both 1x12 combo amps, they both run 12AX7 preamps and class A/B EL84 power amps. They're both reasonably attractive, they both have digital reverb. They're both made in China. The Fender's $500-$600 for a 15W single channel, the Bugera's $300-$350 for a 22W two channel. But there's really only one good reason people are dumping one and buying the other: The V22s kick ass.
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Cagey said:
Somebody has to buy a new V22 before it can become a used V22. If nobody buys a new V22, you will not see used V22's on the market...
The Blues Junior has a long history; therefore, many people eventually upgrade. That provides used Blues Juniors for the market.
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That's a good point - the V22s haven't been on the market nearly as long as BJs. But, somehow, a helluva lotta people on the music forums have them and are talking about them, and the music stores both online and off are having a tough time keeping them in stock. So, the numbers should catch up. They really are nice amps, and would be at twice the price.
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Could you demo your Bugera for us Cagey? Maybe a video or some sound clips showcasing its range.
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Mmmm... cookies...
Having seen most or all of them, I understand your frustration with the V22/V55 demos on YouTube. But, I'm afraid I'm just not in a good position to make clips at this point. Another week or two, and I should be able to do at least rudimentary things.
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Mmmm... cookies...
Having seen most or all of them, I understand your frustration with the V22/V55 demos on YouTube. But, I'm afraid I'm just not in a good position to make clips at this point. Another week or two, and I should be able to do at least rudimentary things.
found one i like but my guitar would sound so different than this i cant use it to compare,
http://www.youtube.com/v/uSK4X0-0Io0
i guess it sounds good in triode mode but can it be switched to pentode mode via a foot switch for the clean sounds i like??
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Dan025 said:
In a word, no. Switching from pentode to triode involves tying the screen grid to the plate on the power tubes, so there's going to be high voltage (probably over 350VDC) involved and there are too many wires for a simple footswitch. It would require a fairly robust multi-conductor cable and it would be inherently dangerous. It could be done with simple low voltage control of relays by a footswitch, but it would almost certainly become a maintenance and reliability issue, not to mention a noticeable manufacturing cost increase.
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Cagey said:
They can handle it.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfRgDJiMS0[/youtube]
