DangerousR6
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I'm in agreement with the first comment under the video... :laughing7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbharIiEig&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbharIiEig&feature=fvwrel
Comfortably.....uhhhhmmm
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Nice Short Horn.
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Shhhhhhhh.....They might be listeningSuper Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
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One of my favotite solos....EVER> Gilmore Always amazes me. No other guitar player can play the same ~12 notes and make it sound so cool. His style is so simple yet so melodic. Not some speed demon trying to cram 100 notes in 4 bars of music.
Totally different style here...but this one is great too, especially since I am trying to learn this. I have to ask...WHAT IS THAT ON THE END OF HER GUITAR!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkj4bU8lozc&feature=plcp
Totally different style here...but this one is great too, especially since I am trying to learn this. I have to ask...WHAT IS THAT ON THE END OF HER GUITAR!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkj4bU8lozc&feature=plcp
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Faked!
Listen to the first bend up in the solo for the vibrato and watch the hand.
No vib. on the hand.
There are other places that tell it's faked also.
Other most obvious clue that it's faked ... the first D chord.
How long does she hold it down (visually) and how long does it sound?
Listen to the first bend up in the solo for the vibrato and watch the hand.
No vib. on the hand.
There are other places that tell it's faked also.
Other most obvious clue that it's faked ... the first D chord.
How long does she hold it down (visually) and how long does it sound?
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I think what you're seeing is the lack of audio/video sync so common on YouTube videos. In this case, you can also see where she fat-fingers some notes that match up to what you hear as well, given the lack of synchronization. If she were miming a recording, those wouldn't be there unless she was even better than we're already giving her credit for. Plus, it's possible she's playing ultra-super-mega light strings that allow for vibrato just by varying pressure on the string against the fret, in which case you wouldn't see her hand doing anything overt.
Plus, it sounds a lot like the guitar we're seeing whose name must not be mentioned. Again, if it she were play-acting against a recording from a better player, the better player would have probably have used a different guitar for that solo with some english applied for better ambience.
Plus, it sounds a lot like the guitar we're seeing whose name must not be mentioned. Again, if it she were play-acting against a recording from a better player, the better player would have probably have used a different guitar for that solo with some english applied for better ambience.
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If there's an out of sync issue then it would be the same distance for the whole video.
She releases that D chord way before the sound ends, but the beginning of the solo is visually in sync with the audio.
I believe that someone recorded the audio over the original PF track,
and then and she's lip syncing to it.
Maybe she did the recording, but I'm convinced that
what we're hearing and what we're seeing are not the same take.
Other things to look at.
The string scrape with the pick at 1:36.
Visually she scrapes on the top 2 or 3 strings but we all know there are no windings to scrape on those strings
to get that strong of a zinger.
Anyway ... it doesn't matter. It's just my point of view and of course I could be wrong.
If I were going to do a vid like this I'd want my guitar track panned full left and out there alone,
so there would be no doubt.
She releases that D chord way before the sound ends, but the beginning of the solo is visually in sync with the audio.
I believe that someone recorded the audio over the original PF track,
and then and she's lip syncing to it.
Maybe she did the recording, but I'm convinced that
what we're hearing and what we're seeing are not the same take.
Other things to look at.
The string scrape with the pick at 1:36.
Visually she scrapes on the top 2 or 3 strings but we all know there are no windings to scrape on those strings
to get that strong of a zinger.
Anyway ... it doesn't matter. It's just my point of view and of course I could be wrong.
If I were going to do a vid like this I'd want my guitar track panned full left and out there alone,
so there would be no doubt.
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I see/hear the scrape at 1:36, but it looked more like a pick scrape than a string scrape, which isn't as dramatic a move so it would appear to get more mileage than you'd get from a string scrape on otherwise smooth strings.
I don't know. I can't see any reason to discredit the clip, but I could be wrong, too.
If the day ever comes where I'll put up videos of me doing anything, they'll probably be hosted on my server rather than YouTube. I truly appreciate that the service exists, but too often people use it to criticize things that it can't provide evidence for. Witness any amp/guitar/sfx review. They're all awful. The audio/video is always out of sync, video quality is all over the board and the audio quality is miserable at best. I don't expect any more, given Google's self-imposed mandate to provide A/V hosting for everybody+dog, but you have to understand and accept that you're not seeing things at their best.
I don't know. I can't see any reason to discredit the clip, but I could be wrong, too.
If the day ever comes where I'll put up videos of me doing anything, they'll probably be hosted on my server rather than YouTube. I truly appreciate that the service exists, but too often people use it to criticize things that it can't provide evidence for. Witness any amp/guitar/sfx review. They're all awful. The audio/video is always out of sync, video quality is all over the board and the audio quality is miserable at best. I don't expect any more, given Google's self-imposed mandate to provide A/V hosting for everybody+dog, but you have to understand and accept that you're not seeing things at their best.
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That's true. I've seen vide reviews with a separate link to the audio in decent quality. Not a bad solution but stupid to have to do it.
The first time I really, really nailed the CN solo in public (I don't mean getting the notes right, I mean... nailing it. You know what I mean), I was playing it on an SG too. It was quite impromptu, over a karaoke track with someone else singing. That was years ago now, I don't even have the guitar any more, but I still remember that rush. Tone was completely wrong but it's a pretty rocking solo and one thing an SG can do is rock.
The first time I really, really nailed the CN solo in public (I don't mean getting the notes right, I mean... nailing it. You know what I mean), I was playing it on an SG too. It was quite impromptu, over a karaoke track with someone else singing. That was years ago now, I don't even have the guitar any more, but I still remember that rush. Tone was completely wrong but it's a pretty rocking solo and one thing an SG can do is rock.
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I think you eyes are just slower than her fingers.... :laughing11:Steve_Karl said:
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I think the better parts of this solo are when she's adlibbing. The stuff from the record, her timing isn't great.
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It's a shame "soloist" has to be qualified with "female". Probably wouldn't do the same with "male".
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not meant to be sexist. there just aren't that many. most of the you tube guitar maestros are teanage boys. most guitar gods or whatever you call them are men. women are clearly as capable but seem to be less interested. maybe because it doesn't seem as feminine or maybe it's it has to do with testosterone and mens tendency to showboat. you could also compare the differences in competitive sports, it doesn't make you sexist. there are differences in how men and women behave and that makes for differences in where they apply tallent or how interested they are in different fields, why does qualifying something automatically turn people into prejudiced bastards?
that said i've seen better guitar players than this girl, both female and male. but she is good, especially for a youtube player. a lot of the you tube bedroom hero types mostly come off as autistic and their coordination looks impressive but it's never quite something you'd want to see in concert.
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Steady on!Dan0 said:
I guess really what I'm saying is, is she one of the better soloists on youtube or not?
The fastest women can't run as fast as the fastest men, that seems to just be a physical fact. So it seems fair to have "fastest woman" be a category in itself. A woman would never win "fastest person". But I don't think guitar playing is something where women need their own category to be able to be compared against each other. "One of the better female guitarists" is about as meaningful as "one of the better brown-eyed guitarists". It's qualifying it with something irrelevant to the skill in question.
it's also a question of numbers though. i didn't mean to say her tallent was an oddity because she's a girl. it's just less common to see female guitar players playing this kind of music. the men aren't better. infact just as there are more men that play this stuff and are good there are a huge number more men that are terrible. and it is a shame that a few men are much more famous for it because there are a ton of amateur guitarists that could hang with vai or van halen and some of the best are women.
i guess the problem is that the genre is largely ego driven. change the instrument to something less associated with tv and getting girls and a loyal minions of warshiping fans to something more traditional like a violin and there is no gender bias.
i guess the problem is that the genre is largely ego driven. change the instrument to something less associated with tv and getting girls and a loyal minions of warshiping fans to something more traditional like a violin and there is no gender bias.
