Can this be right ????

[wolf5150]

Guys, a friend of mine has just received his Warmoth body and he's had the holes done for a Wilky trem but the post holes are drilled right through into the trem cavity.

That can't be right can it ??

I'm waiting for mine but I'll be gutted if they've done that because it's gotta affect the stability.

here's a pic of his

 

[Patrick]

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call them up to see if its an error.
i dont think that is right and it should be sent back  :dontknow:

 

[lidesnowi]

I haven't seen that before, but i am sure that it makes no difference at all on stability and  tone of it!

 

[JaySwear]

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call them up to see if its an error.
i dont think that is right and it should be sent back  :dontknow:

i agree... too bad, thats absolutely awesome woodgrain on that body. but i've never seen something like that...

if warmoth says it's normal then i wouldn't worry about the stability, but that definitely is strange.

 

[Alfang]

Yeh I haven't seen that before either, none of my 6 w's are drilled all the way through

 

[DangerousR6]

Definitely not right, looks like they drilled the holes to deep and then when the rout was cut for the strings cut thru them... :dontknow:

 

[Super Turbo Deluxe Custom]

Doesn't look right to me.  Also doesn't look like it would effect stabilty.  I'm sure most post holes for every type of insert are deeper than they need to be.  However, the 1st step is always to call them instead of posting on a forum.

 

[Alfang]

I think it's not a big deal, I bet most post holes are so close to going through anyway.

As far as calling W first as opposed to showing it here, if it was a quality issue, or a major screw up I'd say call them first,

But something like this though, I wouldn't even bother them at all, It might not be normal, but i believe it's a non issue, The OP was just wanting to know if any others here had seen this before, so far the answer is No

Now put a finnish on it and rock on (or whatever style you play)

 

[Steve_Karl]

The body I'm finishing up now has the same. They're drilled through into the tem cavity.
Doesn't bother me at all.

 

[tfarny]

I've only had one with a two-point trem and it didn't have that. But I have to say it seems like a non-issue, those post holes must be within 1/4 inch of the trem route no matter what, you are just talking about a few thin slivers of wood either way, and the main tension goes through the springs - on a strat trem the post holes are not the thing holding the strings in tension like they are on a tune o matic bridge. You could always mount the posts then use some paste or filler on the back end if it makes you feel better.

 

[Dan025]

I've only had one with a two-point trem and it didn't have that. But I have to say it seems like a non-issue, those post holes must be within 1/4 inch of the trem route no matter what, you are just talking about a few thin slivers of wood either way, and the main tension goes through the springs - on a strat trem the post holes are not the thing holding the strings in tension like they are on a tune o matic bridge. You could always mount the posts then use some paste or filler on the back end if it makes you feel better.

with all due respect i disagree, the springs pull forward and the strings pull forward, the posts are all that push rearward and thus hold the combined tension, but as stiff as the springs seem the length of the lever says that the tension they produce is far less than the strings. but that doesn't mean i disagree about the integrity of the wood being affected or not being affected.

i think it is fine and it may be that the ferules of one two point system are longer than the ferrules of another so the route may differ depending on which two point you ordered, definately contact them and ask, it may be a mistake but that is something that i think quality control would catch, the cause of the mistake may be that an operator forgot to correct tool length offsets when replacing a drill bit or reamer or the endmill/routerbit that cuts the spring cavity, all those routes in there come really close so a change in one spec can have undesired results. but if it wasn't considered acceptable by warmoth i think quality control would have caught it but maybe not?

if it is a problem for you though i can take it off your hands at a discounted price..  :laughing7: anyway if the ferules dont come close to the bottom of the hole yo can fill the holes with dowels or like tfarny said after the posts are installed you can fill the rest with filler or bondo or epoxy.

 

[Cagey]

...as stiff as the springs seem the length of the lever says that the tension they produce is far less than the strings.

The length of the lever does make it easier to overcome the amount of force involved, but unless the bridge is drawn tight to the body by the springs, the forces are equally balanced. Otherwise, the bridge wouldn't float. The string pull and spring pull are the same, and it takes as much force to sharp the strings as it does to flat them.

 

[Wyliee]

Guys, a friend of mine has just received his Warmoth body and he's had the holes done for a Wilky trem but the post holes are drilled right through into the trem cavity.

That can't be right can it ??

I'm waiting for mine but I'll be gutted if they've done that because it's gotta affect the stability.

No worries and it will not affect stability.  The rear rout cavity is slightly deeper than vintage trem routs.  This was done to accomodate a wider range of trem bridges/claws.  Depending on the bridge stud length, the rout can be visible from the trem cavity.

 

[Dan025]

@ cagey, the tension in lbs is less at the spring than string, lbs at the posts will be the strings + springs, they balance out because of the different distances from the fulcrum. i understand gears and levers pretty well.

No worries and it will not affect stability.  The rear rout cavity is slightly deeper than vintage trem routs.  This was done to accomodate a wider range of trem bridges/claws.  Depending on the bridge stud length, the rout can be visible from the trem cavity.

^ i knew if i through enough ideas in there i'd hit on the right situation.

i think it is fine and it may be that the ferules of one two point system are longer than the ferrules of another so the route may differ depending on which two point you ordered,

 

[Cagey]

@ cagey, the tension in lbs is less at the spring than string, lbs at the posts will be the strings + springs, they balance out because of the different distances from the fulcrum. i understand gears and levers pretty well.

You're right; I hadn't considered the difference in length from the fulcrum. The springs are pulling from an inch and a half (or more) away, while the strings are only pulling from ~1/2" away.