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I don't see much group think here. I tend to see lots of lively debate about practically everything.

The fact that many people here like things like raw necks or SS frets more than other places probably has to do with the fact that we're on a Warmoth forum and we've actually tried them and made our own judgments.

I read all kinds of stuff, here and elsewhere, both positive and negative, and went back and forth before ordering SS frets for my first W guitar. After actually playing on them it didn't take long to realize that the people panning them for all sorts of reasons were largely full of crap. That isn't group think - that's real perception based on real experience - not rereading a bunch of clueless "experts" who either don't understand or have never actually used something saying the same things over and over and buying into it.

Same thing with steel reinforced bass necks, Warmoth Pro guitar necks or especially my Teak "isn't a tonewood" bass neck - you read all this negative stuff, then you actually try it for yourself and find that none of it applies.

I also think that group think prevails mainly in arenas where skepticism, the scientific method and technical expertise are unwelcome and unappreciated. And I don't find a critical mass of that here.
 
I have contacted Spike of Warmoth and he told me: "Black korina doesn’t always have the properties we seek in a neck wood for ultimate stability".
 
I've tried stainless frets and I probably won't get them again. But, I don't go in to every thread about a neck and tell people that. Partly because I don't want to have to justify it to the stainless evangelists, and partly because it's just a personal thing and my opinion probably isn't really relevant to people who've not tried them yet. So, self-censorship then. One of the 8 key symptoms of groupthink...
 
My only issue with SS is that it seems to have worse tolerances than the normal stuff.  I've owned several necks with it, and they all needed some work to be playable.  On one neck, I was told by Warmoth that the frets were "within tolerance" for the fretwire.  I just had to grind down a couple high frets, do some levelling and crown/polish a bit, and they're amazing.  Given the issue, I would still buy a neck with SS frets again.  Contrary to what I'd heard, they're not that much harder to work with, and they seem to be really durable.  Both my LP JR/Special and my T90/HB Tele get played many hours a week and gigged a fair bit, and they're both pristine in the fret department.

-Mark
 
Jumble Jumble said:
I've tried stainless frets and I probably won't get them again. But, I don't go in to every thread about a neck and tell people that. Partly because I don't want to have to justify it to the stainless evangelists, and partly because it's just a personal thing and my opinion probably isn't really relevant to people who've not tried them yet. So, self-censorship then. One of the 8 key symptoms of groupthink...
If the question comes up, you should express your opinion.

Having a minority opinion (if that's what it is) is not a reason to censor yourself. If it's a subjective opinion or personal preference, it is what it is.
 
line6man said:
Only until they try raw or lightly oiled necks. How many raw neck players here prefer their finished necks to their raw necks? There is usually no going back, once you've played a good neck. Some people even risk their warranties to have a raw Maple neck, and lightly oiled Maple is popular with instrument manufacturers.

I prefer my finished maple necks to my wenge neck.
 
Super Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
line6man said:
Only until they try raw or lightly oiled necks. How many raw neck players here prefer their finished necks to their raw necks? There is usually no going back, once you've played a good neck. Some people even risk their warranties to have a raw Maple neck, and lightly oiled Maple is popular with instrument manufacturers.

I prefer my finished maple necks to my wenge neck.

Jayswear sold his Purpleheart neck for a Maple neck, too, IIRC.
 
Super Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
Yes.  So stop speaking for us in absolutes.
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The only thing I have stated so far that was not a fact was that usually people prefer raw necks. That is an observation rather than a verifiable fact. Other than that, its facts on the use of finishes, and opinions that are my own. And everyone knows that no one's opinion is worth anything on the internet, so I'm not sure what the issue is.
 
So, have we resolved this totally subjective issue that all comes down once again to personal preference? Should be easy enough, right? After all, don't we all agree on everything that comes up on the forum? Sure we do!!! (I've got raw & finished necks that I love....I've got raw & finished necks that are very disappointing....that pretty much sums it up for me...happy to help.)
                                             
                                                                  :icon_thumright:
 
Well if we can all agree that the answer to "some people like finished necks" is not "until they try raw ones" then sure!
 
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