Behlen Aniline Dyes?

[Scotty2Hotty]

Hey guys
So I'm fairly new to the world of guitar finishing, however scouring this forum and youtube has helped heaps, although I'm still not sure what "CA" is or stands for...  Anyway, I just bought a swamp ash tele with a quilted maple top from Warmoth and I intend on giving it a nice cherry burst, so I was just wondering whether any of you guys have had any experience with Behlen Aniline Dyes such as these: http://www.guitaraust.com.au/finishing/stains/behlen-aniline-stains.html

I cant seem to find any other aniline dyes that I can get my hands on in Australia, so it looks like this is all I've got. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.

PS - excuse the name, I couldnt think of anything else

 

[Jumble Jumble]

CA is cyanoacrylate, more commonly known as superglue or krazy glue.

 

[jackthehack]

I just checked and Mixol dyes are available in Australia..

http://www.mixol.de/front_content.php?idcat=162&lang=2

 

[Scotty2Hotty]

Cheers guys, I'll look into it. Also just on a side note, I was thinking of using Timbermate grain filler to fill the body, can you use alcohol based dyes on water based grain filler, or is that a no go?
Thanks

 

[Cagey]

I've done it. Just make sure everything's cured/dried. Give it time. You wouldn't want to trap any solvents, water or otherwise.

 

[Scotty2Hotty]

Thanks Cagey. I've also read a few somewhat contradictory threads regarding the dyeing of swamp ash - do I dye and then grain fill, or grain fill then dye? Cos I've read that if you dye swamp ash before grain filling then you get a blotchy effect, but then it was you Cagey and Jusatele who said swamp ash dyes really well in this thread: http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=17709.0

And Cagey, what did you mean by the maple going splotchy? I thought maple was the prime candidate for dyeing...

Sorry for the hassle, I'm just a little unsure.

 

[bagman67]

Figured maple "goes blotchy" in a predictable fashion - with the figuring.  Plain vanilla maple is doesn't have the nice pattern to it, so the blotchiness is more catch-as-catch-can -- if it happens at all.

 

[Cagey]

Maple is funny in that you often get areas of end grain along a cut length, which absorbs stain differently.  So, you need to seal it. Usually a wash coat (diluted top coat) works, but there are products specifically for sealing that you can use. Then you stain it.

Figured Maple blotches predictably, as Bagman says, because that's what the figuring is - end grain. It's just organized more attractively. That stuff you don't seal because you want the figure to get exaggerated.

 

[Scotty2Hotty]

Thanks for clearing up my maple question, I figured that's what you meant (pun intended)  :laughing7: