Death by Uberschall said:
Superlizard said:
Cut a hole in the chassis for an extra preamp t00b in a vintage Marshall so you can sound just like Eddie.
(no, don't do that)
That's a myth,
Exactly. But so many idiots did this in the 80's to primo vintage Marshall amps that it became a commonplace thing to see these sweet amps hacked up on the market (Ebay, etc) in later decades... hence my saying, "don't do that". And of course, that's not the only stupid thing they did to get that elusive "brown sound".
Death by Uberschall said:
Eddie never added another tube stage, he just had his Marhsalls modded by "Jose" for more gain and that brown sound tone. Then dropped the line voltage down to around 90 volts with a variac.
The whole Jose Arredondo (sp?) modding thing hasn't been proven conclusively. I've unfortunately been subjected to countless Eddie-tone stories and theories on other BBS's over the years, so I've heard them all (as well, love old Eddie and Eddie tone, but am *not* a brown-sound pursuing whore). The only theory that sounds correct (to the best of my memory) is the one whereupon Eddie used one Marshall head, unmodded, into a dummy load off the speaker out (drops it to line level signal), which then ran into the input of another Marshall head (unmodded as well) and it's speaker cabs. This would make the 1st Marshall head like a stomp box into the 2nd Marshall head. He also had a tap off the dummy load (same principle as the line out on a Hot Plate) running into a few FX and then to a separate power amp (stereo) and then to other speakers.
I follow this "wet/dry" rig concept (sans 2 amps) when playing out - a great way to get time-based FX *post* power-tube instead of *pre* power-tube (whereupon the repeats in a delay, for ex, sound crappy and not clear). Just like recording your guitar dry in the studio, and then doing post-processing with the FX.
It'd be like this:
Guitar
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Boost/OD/Dist Box
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JTM45
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Hotplate - Line Out - Quadraverb (FX) - Stereo Power Amp - 2 Speakers (wet tone - stereo capability)
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Speakers (dry tone)
The other thing many people don't even consider when it comes to the "brown sound" is what Ted did in the mixing booth on the early albums.