10-16'' radius and staggered pickups

Marco78

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I have a Warmoth strat with compound radius and with flat pole pickups. I'm thinking to swap pickups, but the pickups that I'd to install have a staggered magnets. Are there problems with staggered magnets and compound radius neck?

I have read so many opinions but I think that are bullshit...

tnx
 
There are no "problems" with using staggered-pole pickups and a compound radius neck. Honestly - where do people come up with this stuff?

Jason Lollar of Lollar Pickup fame has this to say about them...

Flat-pole vs Staggered-pole Pickups

If you compared a flat-pole pickup to a staggered-pole pickup wound the same way, you would get a little more presence ( like a Fender Amp presence knob), a little more bass and a little more overall output from the flat-pole pickup. Another way to think about it is that a flat-pole pickup will generate a little more output without putting more wire on the pickup coil. Adding more wire changes the frequency response, usually by losing some treble and gaining some bass. If you are already use to using staggered-pole pickups, you may find that you will need to turn the bass down slightly on the amplifier because with a flat-pole pickup you will no longer have to make up for weak low strings.

In most cases the flat-pole pickup will give you a better string balance. The high E won't get buried in the mix like a staggered-pole pickup can. You will also notice that the two low strings are louder than a staggered-pole set, and the G string does not overpower the others.

Staggered-poles create more of a smeared tone when you play more than one note at a time—you may or may not like it. On a staggered-pole pickup the low strings rarely overpower any amp, but they can also sound somewhat subdued or weak. The volume on the G string tends to dominate all others. If you have previously played using only staggered-poles and you don't notice any discrepancies with string-to-string volume balance, you have learned to compensate for them. If you decide to try a flat-pole set, it may take some time to adapt but once you get familiar with the sound, you'll find they work better in most cases than a staggered-pole design. For example, all teles up until around 1956 had flat-poles—no one ever comments that their 1952 telecaster has bad string balance. Also, most Telecasters, Jazzmaster, Mustangs and Fender bass guitars have historically had flat-pole pickups. On Gibson guitars no one ever staggers the adjustable poles as much as strat pickups.

This sounds more like an argument against staggered poles than anything else, and I can't say I disagree.

In any event, it has nothing to do with your fretboard radius. It's more to do with string proximity, gauge, and frequency. If your replacements are going to be staggered, then it's likely you'll be able to raise/lower them to where they'll balance nicely.
 
if you're able to notice a difference feel free to call up eric johnson, i'm sure you could chat for days.
 
No problem. I got Suhr Fletcher Landaus in my Warmoth SSS strat with compound radius neck - and is the best sounding strat on this planet  :icon_thumright:
 
AutoBat said:
if you're able to notice a difference feel free to call up eric johnson, i'm sure you could chat for days.

LOL! Good answer.

I think most of the esoteric "differences" that get discussed about guitars is along the lines of measuring the impact difference you'd feel between jumping off the 41st vs. the 42nd floor of a building. Does it really matter?
 
It does if you're trying to make a living jumping off buildings, and need to differentiate yourself from all them run of the mill 41st floor jumpers.
 
Hi, I have just completed my warmoth Strat which has a 10-16 inch compound radius and has tone riser  city limits pickups with staggered poles.  Hasn't made a blind bit of difference to the sound or caused any issues so go for it. If you are world they are a bit high then you can always gently push them down a bit.  There's usually a bit it give. Hope this helps.  Cheers. :)
 
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