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Ya get out the saw... and start a project!~

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Ready for the back plate

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Some tools of the trade

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Back all installed

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Frame all done.... ready for the top

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Top laid in place, all marked for drilling

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Using a bit just a little larger than the washer, to countersink the top lag screws

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Countersinking the top screws

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The top all installed, except the front piece... which I failed to take a picture of

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This is a real handy little saw rig.... folds up compact for storage, will extend to hold six feet of wood on either side of the blade.  Slides, does compound angles.  Just about eliminates the need for a radial arm saw.  The only thing you cant do with one of these, is dado slot, such as would be used for fixed location shelves, or on the end piece of a book case or similar long piece.  Dados can be cut on a table saw, but cross cutting a big piece on a table saw is awkward, and not so precise.  Without a radial arm saw, you can make up a jig to cut both sides of the slot with a router.  Thats a precise, but SLOW way of doing it.  They say you can turn the head 90 degrees and rip wood on a radial arm saw, but you wont catch me doing that.  It just never really sat in my "zone of safety"..., ya know?
 
that looks sturdy....

What type of finish are you going to do?  that would look killer with a tobacco burst!!!
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There's method to the madness.....

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This amp has been on the back burner for over two years... time to finish it up and get movin on the reverb units!
There will be one extra reverb when I'm done with mine and Vic's.  I'm gonna build three.

I dunno for the finish... something brown on the bottom and do the top in shellac, since I've got two quarts of it here.  Not that durable... but... I got the stuff, so I'll use it.
 
Looks good, CB!
Was it the Super you were going to finish, or start the Reverbs?

Btw, do you prefer spring, digital, or analog delay? I'm guessing spring.
 
Amp rundown -

Super, then a quick jaunt into an Champ I've heavily modded.  Then the three reverb units, loosely based on Leo's design.  Then one final tweed Deluxe I've got socked away.  Hows that for ampdom?  The Deluxe I did up last time... didn't last long.  I let a customer in my day job try it, and he wouldn't give it back.  It cost him a new Les Paul Standard from Elderly's.  It got the =CB= tweakage.  I've got one cabinet for a deluxe left now, as I gave the same guy a cabinet with a 12 loaded in it for his wedding present.

The reverb - delay - is going to be perhaps a mondo 4 tank unit.  There is a trick when you use more than one tank... to take the harshness out, and put the huge fullness in.  There's also the series/parallel electrical to deal with, but thats not an issue.  Its nice though, because you can switch from 1 to 4 tanks, keep the impedance right, and turn up, or tune down the "lush" factor by doing so.... in addition to the dwell control (how hard you hit the tank), mix, and volume.  There is also.... another trick which involves using a reverb unit as a portable effects loop and as a pretty cool "extra gain stage" for any amp, all done by switching.  I'm not into effects loops, but I've already modded Fender factory units for the extra gain stage and it works out really well.  Thats why I tend to call this a preVerb rather than reverb.





 
=CB= said:
Amp rundown -

Super, then a quick jaunt into an Champ I've heavily modded.  Then the three reverb units, loosely based on Leo's design.  Then one final tweed Deluxe I've got socked away.  Hows that for ampdom?  The Deluxe I did up last time... didn't last long.  I let a customer in my day job try it, and he wouldn't give it back.  It cost him a new Les Paul Standard from Elderly's.  It got the =CB= tweakage.  I've got one cabinet for a deluxe left now, as I gave the same guy a cabinet with a 12 loaded in it for his wedding present.
Is that Champ the Hot Rod Champ? And was that Paul Chester the Lester?
The reverb - delay - is going to be perhaps a mondo 4 tank unit.  There is a trick when you use more than one tank... to take the harshness out, and put the huge fullness in.  There's also the series/parallel electrical to deal with, but thats not an issue.  Its nice though, because you can switch from 1 to 4 tanks, keep the impedance right, and turn up, or tune down the "lush" factor by doing so.... in addition to the dwell control (how hard you hit the tank), mix, and volume.   There is also.... another trick which involves using a reverb unit as a portable effects loop and as a pretty cool "extra gain stage" for any amp, all done by switching.  I'm not into effects loops, but I've already modded Fender factory units for the extra gain stage and it works out really well.  Thats why I tend to call this a preVerb rather than reverb.
Sounds pretty cool. I've wondered if spring reverbs would sound better between the guitar and amp, or after some amplification.
 
I need one of those in my garage..when are you available to build one in mine? There's beer in it for you.  :eek:ccasion14:
 
Sure - you buy the materials though!~  Cost was about $80 in Florida priced lumber, and hardware.  It took... dang near a full box of 100 lag screws.  I think there's about 8 left over, and thats because I used some other lengths on the back panel.
 
Well if you're asking if I sketched out how I wanted the joints (simple) and about how wide the top would be (5widths of a 2x6)  yes.

Here's the basics -

I used 2x6 by 8 foot straight lumber (eyeball it to make sure its straight)
I got a 1x10 by 6 foot to be a back panel. Again, make sure its straight
I count 78 1/4 x 2-1/2 inch lags but it seems like I used more, as there's not 22 left in the box of 100. Maybe I got gypped.
I count 5 1/4 x 3-1/2 inch lags for the back panel.
That makes 83 1/4 inch standard washers - again, just a box of 100

Miter saw, portable drill, framers square, one big C clamp (since I have no helper), and a socket speeder to bolt it all together.

I'll probably hit it with the belt sander to break the edges on the cut ends a little, but you could do that with a rasp and sandpaper.
There will be a shelf under it... haven't decided just what size or configuration yet.  I like the open floorspace, but also want some storage, so might make two columns of shelves (which is why the bottom cross pieces weren't cut flush.

If you really wanted to be anal, you could make this from hardwood like oak and use glue on every joint, and oak dowels to hold it all together.  That would be beyond cool, triple the price, and quadruple the time of assembly, having to wait for the glue to set.

I wanted to be able to have a real heavy duty bench.  For a lighter duty bench, sub 1x6 for the 2x6 on the five top pieces - but bear in mind you'll still want the five cross pieces to be made from 2x6, so you'll still need an extra 2x6 to get them from (there's a half board leftover anyway and you'll use that too).  

Top pieces were cut to six feet.  Five of those.  From the 2x6's
I cut three 2x6's to 5 feet for the front and back rails on top and back rail on bottom.
All the cross pieces are from whats left over.  There is one brace in the middle of the top.
Legs were something like 29.5 or 28.5... I cant remember.  It make it match the other benches plus 5/8 inch, so they are even when I retop them.  If you want the size I'll measure it.
I seem to recall... the cross pieces are all 24 inches, except the center brace which was cut to fit
The top front is mitered, for cleaner appearance, which also took about 1-1/2 inches off the center brace - since 2x6's are about 1-1/2
Back panel set on before the top was, to insure no gaps.  Top sections pressed hard against the back, and the "front" top was drilled and secured with it all tight.  The rest were an easy drill and lag in at that point, remaining tight.

Back panel was attached with 3-1/2 inch lags, the rest were all 2-1/2 inch.  If you got a speeder for a socket, its makes it very easy to lag it all together.

I'll see if I still got the sketch and post it.
 
very nice work....I sitll would like to see a burst finish on it....

I built something similar and then proceeded to bolt the entire unit to a wall.  The only mod I did was use pressurized 4x4s for the legs.

If anyone in going to tryo to copy CBs masterpoece...The biggest issue I see when building one of these is getting good STRAIGHT lumber and using a square.  You would be surprised on how crappy some lumber is.
 
dmraco said:
The biggest issue I see when building one of these is getting good STRAIGHT lumber and using a square.  You would be surprised on how crappy some lumber is.

Too true! I've been wanting to do something like this for a while, but I just caved in and bought a big desk for my work table.

An inspiration for sure! Looks very strong and useful. Also, Clean!
 
I'd put a 1/4 inch thick piece o masonite on that bench (someday)

I like dmraco's idea for the burst as well
 
maybe a +1 on that masonite... or carpet... I gotta see how I start using it, and keep in mind, there are two other benches needing tops of plywood... so I'll decide as I go.

I shopped for the wood one night, but couldn't get started till about 230pm and it was done by 630pm, so about 4 hours or so
 
TexxasJam said:
I need one of those in my garage..when are you available to build one in mine? There's beer in it for you.  :eek:ccasion14:

lol... when I first read this, I thought you were asking him to build a Super in your garage.  :)
 
NonsenseTele said:
But it's still damn fast

I dunno... but thanks.

An no... NO SUPER gets built except that one.  I rebuilt a Super for a guy back years ago.  God that thing had the biggest low end I've ever heard and would break up from about 3 on.  Really nice amp.  I vowed that I'd clone one some day.  Guess that day is now.  Vic likes his 4x10 Bassman built on the same layout.  The Pro and Bandmaster and Super were all the same, except for minor value changes in only one or two components.  There was never really a Bassman that used the "exact" same chassis, but the 56 Bassman was a very close cousin inside where it counts.
 
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