Watchmen

[hannaugh]

WARNING:  I'll try not to ruin anything, but if you haven't seen it and you plan on seeing it, it might be good to stay away from this thread until you have seen it. 

Did anyone else see it, and if so... what the hell was that prehistoric-looking cat thing at the end?  I saw a late showing, so I was kind of tired and maybe I missed something. 

Also, I didn't catch why that one dude had elf ears.  Was he supposed to be a hobbit?

Other than that I thought it was an interesting movie.  I'm not eager to go out and see it again any time soon because some of it was a little too dark and messed up (and gross, like that part where they sawed that guy's hands off with a grinder) for me, but I'm really curious about the graphic novel and I think I'll have to read it and compare.

Oh yeah, and the sex scene with "Hallelujah" playing was one of the most awkward things I have ever seen.  If it had different music, it might have been okay.  If it had been a good cover of the song it would have been okay.  But the music just made it weird in my opinion.  They might as well have used something from a William Shatner album.

 

[Rick]

I heard it was a perfect movie for a grim goth college sophomore, who is waiting for the world to end, and reads 1980's comic books.  Maybe he's a hermit too.

 

[hannaugh]

Well, it's really dark and gritty, but it has a very hopeful ending.  It doesn't end the way you think it will.  So I would say that is only half true.  It defnitely wasn't as bad as The Matrix in that respect. 

It was interesting though because it had a lot more ideas and themes floating around in it than most superhero type movies because it was an alternate history type of story, and only one of the heroes had super powers. 

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Apart from Dr. Manhattans unnecessary ummm..... errrr............bits showing, it was an awesome movie!  :laughing7:

 

[Mor Paul]

Apart from Dr. Manhattans unnecessary ummm..... errrr............bits showing, it was an awesome movie!  :laughing7:

So many movies have to have unnecessary nudity... watch The Wall sometime. Near the end, there's a mini best-of: boobs in the Wall shown. Completely pointless to me.

 

[exalted]

The cat was a result of genetic modification. A designer pet, basically.

Moloch didn't have any reason for having the ears. I think it was supposed to be a mutation which he used to his advantage as a stage magician, which later segued into his life of crime. I was hoping they would leave those out, but ah well.

You didn't miss anything in regards to either of your questions - they weren't explained in the movie (but were in the book).

If you enjoyed the philosophical aspects of the movie, then definitely check out the comic/graphic novel.

And yes, the sex scene was much more akward than it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be a complete contrast to Nite Owl's fantasy versus reality complex...they didn't do a good job of conveying it...at least not with that song.



As for Doctor Manhattan's junk...I would have been disappointed if they left it out. It just needed to be there. Him wearing underwear all the time would have been a cop-out. Remember, he didn't care about his humanity at the 'present' part of the story...why would he care about modesty if he didn't care about any other aspects of human life?

 

[Soylent]

Apart from Dr. Manhattans unnecessary ummm..... errrr............bits showing, it was an awesome movie!  :laughing7:

So many movies have to have unnecessary nudity... watch The Wall sometime. Near the end, there's a mini best-of: boobs in the Wall shown. Completely pointless to me.

You don't understand the entirity of the wall? at your age? No way!  :laughing7:

But seriously.. I love the wall.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

Apart from Dr. Manhattans unnecessary ummm..... errrr............bits showing, it was an awesome movie!  :laughing7:

So many movies have to have unnecessary nudity... watch The Wall sometime. Near the end, there's a mini best-of: boobs in the Wall shown. Completely pointless to me.

You don't understand the entirity of the wall? at your age? No way!  :laughing7:

But seriously.. I love the wall.

Yeah, but that's 'Good' nudity. Man bits are not good nudity.       

 

[exalted]

Apart from Dr. Manhattans unnecessary ummm..... errrr............bits showing, it was an awesome movie!  :laughing7:

So many movies have to have unnecessary nudity... watch The Wall sometime. Near the end, there's a mini best-of: boobs in the Wall shown. Completely pointless to me.

You don't understand the entirity of the wall? at your age? No way!   :laughing7:

But seriously.. I love the wall.

Yeah, but that's 'Good' nudity. Man bits are not good nudity.         

For your sake, let's hope none of your future girlfriends agree with you. :icon_biggrin: :icon_jokercolor:

 

[hannaugh]

I didn't have a problem with the Dr. Manhattan nudity, but they could have established that he was naked and then strategically placed the camera so that his junk wasn't on screen for as long as it was.  I thought there were many scenes that could have easily been filmed from the waist up, but they instead chose to put it in your face.  It didn't really bother me... I mean, it was Billy Crudup, but I noticed that they did that when they didn't really have to. 

 

[exalted]

I see your point, but don't entirely agree. I feel they were indifferent to the concept (albeit intentionally so). They didn't show his junk during his first scene when they very easily could have....it would have been bigger than Rorschach!

I admit, it's definitely very different than what we're used to seeing in movies, but I don't think they did it as a shock gag, and I personally don't feel it was gratuitous. They sort of executed it in the manner of ancient Greek statues/paintings...it's just there.

 

[hannaugh]

Haha, my friend saw it in Imax, so I'm sure it was HUGE when she saw it.

 

[guitlouie]

I loved the Watchmen comic/graphic novel.  I will probably do what I always do in this situation.  I will tell myself not to see the stupid movie, It'll only ruin it, I'll say.  Then I will wait a long time.  Then, I won't be able to help myself.  Then I'll see it, but only after I have heard everything about it.  Why can I just not be crazy?

 

[hannaugh]

I think with adaptations you have to just remember that the movie and the book are two different things.  Like The Princess Bride.  The book is great.  The movie is great, but it left out a lot of cool stuff from the book. But as a stand-alone thing, the movie is great.  Most people who love movie don't even realize that it was a book.  It's really like comparing apples and oranges anyways.

What if there was a really great movie that I wanted to adapt into a song?  I doubt anyone would expect the song to have everything in it that the movie had.  And I'm sure that anyone else would write a completely different song because adaptations are all about an individual or a small group of people's interpretation. 

Anyways, that was a tangent, but my point is that no one should expect a movie to be the same as a book.  A movie is a movie, a book is a book. 

And that said... League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was really disappointing.  Just kidding, I haven't even seen it.  I love the comics though.

 

[guitlouie]

See?  Your crazy too!

 

[exalted]

I don't claim to know exactly how you tick, Louie, but the movie didn't ruin anything for me. If anything, I look back a little more fondly on the book.

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

And that one scene on mars where Dr. Manhattan was on mars and they zoomed out from under his ass.  :laughing11:

 

[hannaugh]

My favorite part was during the awkward sex scene in the Archie thing when my fiance leaned over and said "They're gonna accidentally hit one of those buttons!" and I said "They'll have to explain why they accidentally blew up a random apartment building," and then they actually did hit one of the buttons. 

Actually no, I thought the best scene in the whole movie were the opening credits with Bob Dylan and the montage.  They did that whole section really well. 

 

[Wana_make_a_guitar]

My favorite part was during the awkward sex scene in the Archie thing when my fiance leaned over and said "They're gonna accidentally hit one of those buttons!" and I said "They'll have to explain why they accidentally blew up a random apartment building," and then they actually did hit one of the buttons. 

Actually no, I thought the best scene in the whole movie were the opening credits with Bob Dylan and the montage.  They did that whole section really well. 

He must of read the book.  :dontknow:

 

[m4rk0]

So many movies have to have unnecessary nudity...

I don't get it..  ??? :icon_scratch:

[quote author=Wanna] Yeah, but that's 'Good' nudity. Man bits are not good nudity.    [/quote]

aaaaahhh Now I get it :icon_biggrin: