Warmoth Pro or Vintage Modern Truss Rod, which do you prefer ?

[lucky13]

Just wondering if I could get some suggestions as to what Type of Neck you prefer and why, Warmoth Pro or Vintage Modern.

Im pulling the trigger on a nice custom neck this weekend and am debating Vintage Modern or Warmoth Pro CBS neck for a high end Tele Deluxe build, Im using very expensive and great sounding vintage style Paf Humbuckers ala a Les Paul sound as opposed to the Wide range that normally go on the Deluxe, I know that Vintage Modern would be what I want for Vintage tones and on my last 2 builds those are the necks I have ordered, but for some reason Im thinking maybe the Warmoth Pro may be a better neck for long term stability.

Note I also like metal or heavier Jamm based music along with bluesy and Classic rock sounds.....

Will the Warmoth Pro be neck Heavy on a solid Tele Deluxe body ?

Will the Warmoth Pro take away from the tone of my guitar and the Classic Paf's Im spending so much for ?

Pros, Cons, Tips and preferences much appreciated ....  Thank you

 

[Cagey]

A "Pro" neck will be a couple/few ounces heavier than a non-pro, but it won't be neck-heavy on any body. It'll still come with a full nest of healthy tone worms, so no worries there. Finally, they're incredibly stable. Very much a "set it and forget it" truss rod. Highly recommended.

 

[lucky13]

Thank you Cagey, your opinion is always respected and appreciated.

 

[mayfly]

I really love my Pro necks.  I also have a 'vintage modern' and a 'total vintage' neck.  I like them less because I constantly have to adjust them.  Not so with the Pro necks - it's set and forget with them.

I don't really detect a difference in tone.

 

[lucky13]

Thank you Mayfly,

I have been hearing more and more people saying that they really dont notice differences in tone on issues that used to be staunchly debated  ie: poly vs. nitro, Mahogany vs. Alder ...etc.  being a bit old school I have trouble stepping out of the Box when it comes to traditional vs. modern but the Idea of doing one setup a year sure does sound nice.

 

[Cagey]

Thank you Cagey, your opinion is always respected and appreciated.

You're welcome. I should qualify what I said about them not being neck heavy on any body, though. Put one on an SG/Melody Maker, and you'll get some neck dive out of the deal. But, with that guitar design you could get neck dive out of a Balsa neck with no truss rod. It's not the neck's fault; it's where they put the strap hanger. The front peg is too far back and the body is generally pretty light.

 

[Cagey]

... the Idea of doing one setup a year sure does sound nice.

I've got Pro series necks here that are four years old and haven't needed adjustment. Not a helluva long time, but relatively speaking and considering Michigan's variable weather...

 

[lucky13]

Thats a helluva long time too me......lol  Im origally from Wis. so I know that weather.....you should come check out Wa. weather sometime, it rains 9 out of 10 days a year..lol  well damn close.....

 

[AutoBat]

I too enjoy the Pro construction. I like heavy instruments so I can't opine on that aspec.

 

[jackthehack]

I really love my Pro necks.  I also have a 'vintage modern' and a 'total vintage' neck.  I like them less because I constantly have to adjust them.  Not so with the Pro necks - it's set and forget with them.

I don't really detect a difference in tone.

+1  :icon_thumright:

 

[ihavenothingprofoundtosay]

I used a maple 1 piece vintage modern on my brother's Rusticaster, and it did indeed feel light, yet solid.  It was mated to a super light pine body, and there was no neck dive.  He's said it's by far the best guitar he's ever owned.  I've also built him an LP/RD guitar out of a 24.75 pro-neck which was rather stubby, but that had the 59 roundback & was made out of mahogany.  Neither has needed an adjustment since their initial set up. 

My brother likes the Rusticaster w/vintage modern much more, but I think it has to do more than the overall tone & feel of the guitar.

 

[Kostas]

3VM & 1PRO so far, all two piece and thick (59 & FAT). I prefer VM when I have the option, all of my necks are very stable. They are straight and remain straight after they have been adjusted once or twice in the beginning.

 

[lucky13]

Just a note I went ahead and purchased a Warmoth Pro Quartersawn maple 59 Roundback Neck with Black Ebony Fretboard and SS6115 frets.

I made my decision after hearing several Long Time builders on here state that definitively they heard no respective differences in the value of the tone comparing the Vintage Modern vs. the Warmoth Pro necks, many however did state that their Warmoth Pro necks were by far more stable over the long haul as far as having to reintonate or adjust the truss rod.

I have owned 2 Vintage Modern Fatbacks previously and loved the necks but I felt it was time for a no maintenance neck this time, ie: less setups....I also went with the Quartersawn Maple/Ebony/SS frets as I felt I couldnt get anything more articulate, bright and stable than that combination and I have traditionally liked the tone of an all Maple neck more often in the past....or so my ears and thoughts were biased toward them more.

Im going with Black Korina or Mahogany for the Tele Deluxe body, possibly rear routed as Im using double Skatterbrane Earthbrane Paf's for a Tele/Paul sound, wether the body and neck woods will truley color the guitar other than it being very bright and articulate remains debatable.

Just for the Record, I secretly believe in the Old School tone wood theories that specific combinations do color the sound....but in conjunction with the pickup, pot,cap choices also factored in.....in other words if you build it with Gibson woods and values it will sound like a Gibson, if you choose Fender wood combo's and values you get Fender sounds...etc. etc. 

Thus Joe Satriani and Steve Vai, if they truley play the instruments they endorse = light Bass wood bodies.....and high output pickups with bright, hard Walnut/Maple/Ebony necks equals Ibanez.  :icon_biggrin:

 

[Strat Avenger]

I prefer the Vintage-Modern.