Tigers Eye

[Paul-less]

I love me some stained flamed maple. I was wondering if anybody has done a finish similar to Warmoth's Tiger Eye. I have a link to a great example Here.

I would need the colors of stains used, order of operations, and such.

I've stained bodies before, but only one color per body. And surprisingly, no maple bodies. I'd love any suggestions.

 

[Patrick from Davis]

Dye first with black, or tobacco brown.  Let it dry, and sand back to desired amount of stained figuring.  Dye with yellow on top of that.  Careful with the yellow, a little tends to go quite a ways and left overs will get into the finish material if you are not careful.  Let it dry for a day.  Burst the edges with amber.  Let it dry for a day.  Spray the whole thing with three nice thin layers of Zinsser Wax Free shellac.  Watch out!, it comes out of the spray can real fast.  Give a day for each coat of the shellac to dry.  After the third coat, check if you need to sand any shellac marks, and get ready for finish. 

A lot is skipped here.  You have to play with the dyes to burst, and figure out how to blend a bit so that the burst looks right.  That depends on what dye you use.  I used the one from Reranch and you can blend them with acetone, but that will not work for the others.  Depends on the dye.  Get some test pieces and get comfortable with how the dyes behave.
Patrick

 

[Paul-less]

Patrick, you are a Godsend, whoever yours may be.

I was wondering about the clear coat. Could I use some sort of spray can nitro instead of shellac? I've seen around the forum that Deft is a popular brand, but when I was researching it, I could only find brush on, and nowhere did it say that it was nitro.

 

[Patrick from Davis]

It seems I didn't mention that the Zinsser Shellac is sanding sealer, and listed that way on the can.  Details details details...
Patrick

 

[dmraco]

That looks more like a bengal burst.  WARMOTH tiget eye is more brown...likely a black dye sanded back and then hit with brown.

I did this with Tobacco brown and amber...

 

[Paul-less]

Going off of Warmoth's "finish" section of their website, I must insist that the example I provided is a Tiger's Eye finish.

I must say, what you have shown would make an excellent alternative, though. May I ask, do you spray your dye's? Or do you rub them in?

And those corks. Do they work very well to keep finish out? Do you scrap finish off of the faces once you are done?

 

[dmraco]

Going off of Warmoth's "finish" section of their website, I must insist that the example I provided is a Tiger's Eye finish.

I must say, what you have shown would make an excellent alternative, though. May I ask, do you spray your dye's? Or do you rub them in?

And those corks. Do they work very well to keep finish out? Do you scrap finish off of the faces once you are done?

You rub the dyes in.  Thge corks work well.  I did not need to scrape anything.  You can if you like but the tops of the studs were not seen one the bridge was installed.  The corks was mostly to keep the spray clear out of the threads.

Also...here is a tigers eye strat pulled directly off warmoth...I did a search on the showcase.  It is much different than the one you posted.  I just want to make sure we are talking abou tthe same stuff to give you accurate info.

 

[Ace Flibble]

The Warmoth Tiger's Eye is definitely a few shades darker than the first image posted. If you search these forums or look at the customer galleries on Warmoth's site you can see the Tiger's Eye is just as dark as the showcase pictures show. The first picture looks much more like some made their own version of the Gibson Aged Tiger/Green Tiger finish, just so happened to be using on a Warmoth body.

It's a shame because I think the Aged Tiger is much prettier than the Tiger's Eye, but hey-ho.

Anyway from my understanding, from when I looked into getting my Epi Joe Perry LP re-veneered, the Aged Tiger style would be dark brown dye sanded back then yellow or amber dye over the top (I think the Gibson one is done with yellow and the Epiphone version with amber dye). The Warmoth version I can't speak for though to me it looks like it would be the same only with the inital brown dye not sanded back so much.

 

[Paul-less]

I apologize. Obviously all finished are slightly different. The example I found HERE is much closer to the first example I posted, sans the black edge.

Back to finishes, I seem to like the "Aged Tiger" and DMRACO's "Tobacco and Amber" much more than my first example. I think I would like to do one of those...



Edit, once the link is opened, change "Clear" to "dye", then it is the second row, third from the left.

 

[dmraco]

I apologize. Obviously all finished are slightly different. The example I found HERE is much closer to the first example I posted, sans the black edge.

Back to finishes, I seem to like the "Aged Tiger" and DMRACO's "Tobacco and Amber" much more than my first example. I think I would like to do one of those...



Edit, once the link is opened, change "Clear" to "dye", then it is the second row, third from the left.

Thats a product of tobacco bown and amber like mine.  Obviosly several items effect the final product...grain of wood...number of dye applicationa and concetration...(the dyes not yours).  I have detailed photos of my applying my finish if you like

 

[Paul-less]

I would greatly appreciate it.

Also, what brands do you use? I looked at Reranch a bit since joining this forum, but I have never used any of their products.

 

[dmraco]

sent me a PM with your email