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What's the general consensus on these? The head style I want (KWS reverse right handed) isn't available as a tilt back.
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I got Warmoth Pro necks with the Gotoh Side Adjuster on all my Warmoths. I really like the system. And I got it on my KWS neck on my La Cabronita Shredder:
I say go! :icon_thumright:
I say go! :icon_thumright:
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KainThornn said:
I've got 5 of them, soon to be 6, and I wouldn't want it any other way. It's a great idea, and well-executed. Funny part is, the only necks they put them on don't really need them. That is, they're only offered on the "Pro" series necks that have the dual-action truss rods. Those necks are remarkably stable, so you don't need to adjust the truss rod much, if at all. Kinda negates the need for a convenient adjustment. Although, if you ever do have to make an adjustment, you'll be thankful you don't have to go to as much trouble as some configurations demand.
Another consideration is when the neck gets old or worn enough to need fretwork. You might want an easy truss rod adjustment then, too. You can straighten it, do your levelling, crowning and polishing, then relieve it again with little effort and all without removing it from the guitar. Although, to be fair, removing necks on bolt-ons is nothing anyway, especially if you install threaded inserts and machine screws to hold it on.
As for the tilt-back headstock, don't worry about it. It's largely unnecessary on most electric designs. But, if you must have a side-angled headstock, you're going to have tuning issues unless you install a locking nut such as is used with a Floyd Rose-type vibrato bridge. That also negates any advantage, real or imagined, that a tilt-back head might have.
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Thanks for the replies! Once the end adjuster was set, was there much need for any for any further adjusting via the side adjuster? I'd get a tilt back head type neck or left handed neck just to have the adjuster in a familiar place. I have a set of 6 right tuners, thus the need for a reverse head. I was looking at the KWS to keep costs down, otherwise I'd be all up into another right reverse Explorer neck. I think when the time comes I'll bite the bullet and go RR Explorer or Jackson. Depends on what's in the showcase at the moment. Dang... ??? 
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I've never had to adjust any of my necks once I set them up. I flatten them when they arrive and check for high frets just to be safe, but generally haven't needed to do much more at that point. Relieve them about 10 thou, and call it a love story. They've been rock-solid and I live in Michigan, which has some pretty wide temperature/humidity swings. It's never as dry as Arizona or as wet as Florida, but it still fluctuates quite a bit over the course of a year.
As far buying into a reverse headstock to accommodate some tuners in hand, I'd never do that. If they're decent tuners, put 'em up for sale or trade and buy the right parts to satisfy the neck you'd really rather have. Tuners are relatively inexpensive compared to necks, and there's no sense suffering for the sake of $20 to $40. It's not like you build a guitar every two weeks. You're probably going to live with the thing for a while, so make sure you're happy.
Also, unclench the $20 for stainless frets. Happiest money you'll ever spend.
As far buying into a reverse headstock to accommodate some tuners in hand, I'd never do that. If they're decent tuners, put 'em up for sale or trade and buy the right parts to satisfy the neck you'd really rather have. Tuners are relatively inexpensive compared to necks, and there's no sense suffering for the sake of $20 to $40. It's not like you build a guitar every two weeks. You're probably going to live with the thing for a while, so make sure you're happy.
Also, unclench the $20 for stainless frets. Happiest money you'll ever spend.
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SS frets are a must have item! Ever since I first heard of them I've been frothing at the mouth for a neck loaded up with them. The reason I have 6 right tuners is I'm replacing a damaged RR Explorer neck. I like the RR hockey head style 
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KainThornn said:
No doubt. It's to the point now where I pick up a guitar that doesn't have them, and for a moment I wonder what's wrong with it. Then, it dawns on me: this thing has pasta for frets! <grin>
They really are the whip. You'll be so pleased once you have a neck outfitted that way, you'll wonder how anyone accepts anything less. Although, to be fair, most people don't get the chance to try them. Few manufacturers are willing to spend the extra $3-$4 material cost to put stainless frets on.
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KainThornn said:Thanks for the replies! Once the end adjuster was set, was there much need for any for any further adjusting via the side adjuster? I'd get a tilt back head type neck or left handed neck just to have the adjuster in a familiar place. I have a set of 6 right tuners, thus the need for a reverse head. I was looking at the KWS to keep costs down, otherwise I'd be all up into another right reverse Explorer neck. I think when the time comes I'll bite the bullet and go RR Explorer or Jackson. Depends on what's in the showcase at the moment. Dang... ???
You're right about the side adjust not being on lefty necks, but a righty reverse is still righty construction as covered in another thread and would still have the side adjust.
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Super Nigerian Turbo Deluxe Custom said:KainThornn said:Thanks for the replies! Once the end adjuster was set, was there much need for any for any further adjusting via the side adjuster? I'd get a tilt back head type neck or left handed neck just to have the adjuster in a familiar place. I have a set of 6 right tuners, thus the need for a reverse head. I was looking at the KWS to keep costs down, otherwise I'd be all up into another right reverse Explorer neck. I think when the time comes I'll bite the bullet and go RR Explorer or Jackson. Depends on what's in the showcase at the moment. Dang... ???
You're right about the side adjust not being on lefty necks, but a righty reverse is still righty construction as covered in another thread and would still have the side adjust.
RR has nothing to do with where the truss rod is adjusted at, as mentioned before I like the RR hockey heads. I still have the tuners from a previous RR Explorer neck, so getting another RR is just logical. I'm hoping the neck doesn't end up costing 3 times what I paid for the body.
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Cagey said:
That's right... around here you build a guitar every week.
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KainThornn said:
Well I know that. I typed that because you said you were considering a lefty neck just to have the adjuster in a familiar place. From your post, it made it sound as if an RR neck wouldn't have the side adjust, and it does.
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Super Nigerian Turbo Deluxe Custom said:
KainThornn said:
Really?
But then again - around here, the idea that you need to build an entirely new guitar because you happen to have a set of tuning pegs lying around sounds like an entirely rational thought.
(so relax, kid, you're among the RIGHT PEOPLE now. It's only the ONES OUT THERE you have to worry about, from here on out....) :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
(so relax, kid, you're among the RIGHT PEOPLE now. It's only the ONES OUT THERE you have to worry about, from here on out....) :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
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I'm building a guitar to replace a damaged one, no need to buy the whole setup when I have perfectly good working hardware and electronics. Kid? I'm 43.
Cagey said:
My first Warmoth neck I bought I shelled out the extra for SS frets, and like Cagey said, I can't imagine going without them. My 2nd neck I got them too. They're just sooo smooth when bending. Polish them up with some Flitz, and you'll be bending your D and G strings right off the fretboard.
