pro guitar thief

[Hendrix]

on CCTV, use the special BIG coat


https://youtu.be/4applk_4Xs4


[youtube]4applk_4Xs4[/youtube]

 

[amigarobbo]

I remember about a million years ago, (late 80s) people in a guitar shop talking about someone with a big coat with a hook inside would just walk off with expensive guitars, of course back in those days that meant they cost £3 10 shilling and six pence.

:tard:

 

[aarontunes]

Thieves suck.

 

[amon]

Yeah, like people charging $11K for a guitar.

 

[aarontunes]

Yeah, like people charging $11K for a guitar.

Does not equate.

 

[amon]

You're right.  It's way worse.

 

[aarontunes]

You're right.  It's way worse.

I don't understand. Can you explain how?

 

[TBurst Std]

You're right.  It's way worse.

I don't understand. Can you explain how?

I agree double A. As a manufacturer or service provider, you can set what ever price you want.  If the potential buyer does ‘t like it, they are free to move on.  Sort or mirrors some work I am doing now.  I was approached for a quote initially, was viewed as over priced and they went with someone else at 65% of my original quote.  Well 4 months later (2 of which are past schedule), guess who I got a call from.  As I have to now work an expedited timeframe and undo a bunch of wrong, my total invoice to them is 35% more than my initial quote. That in No Way equates to a person stealing what is not theirs.

 

[Cagey]

Been there, done that, made the money.

Wishful thinking is always disappointing, but people still engage in it as if it works. "Wow! This guy will do a job for almost nothing that everybody else says is going to cost a lot! I much prefer almost nothing! I'm gonna go that way! What could possibly go wrong?

I once won a job by saying I had no idea what it was going to cost. They had already gone with the "almost nothing" bid, and were so far from where they wanted to be they were actually behind where they started.

 

[amon]

PRS has been a prime mover in the gentrification and fetishization of the American Electric Guitar.  The last remaining mass-produced American-made guitars are generally priced at more than they're really worth.  This is the phenomenon that has led directly to the problems that Gibson (a far more important brand than PRS) is currently facing.  Soon will come the day that you won't be able buy an American production model, because none will exist. 

What those two old clowns in that shop did was petty theft.  What PRS has done is the undermining of an entire market.

 

[DarkPenguin]

Been there, done that, made the money.

Pro guitar thief?

 

[Cagey]

LOL! No, don't be silly. I'd sooner cut off my own balls.

 

[Seamas]

The last remaining mass-produced American-made guitars are generally priced at more than they're really worth.

Are they not priced at where they sell for?

I mean other than a certain percentage the sales staff get for commissions?

I mean that particular guitar isn't worth £11K for me, but I could think of any number of guitars I would spend that kind of money for if I had the extra cash.

 

[Cagey]

Are they not priced at where they sell for? 

Perzactly.

The worth of a thing is the price it will bring. - Ben Franklin

You can always tell when something is priced wrong. It won't sell.

 

[aarontunes]

Don't know why it tickles me so much that you put Ben's words in quote tags.  :icon_biggrin:

 

[Cagey]

Well, what with it being a quote and all...  :icon_biggrin:

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

A business exists to make a profit, and this is one business where profits are quite low due to production costs, which includes labor & insurances.

Back when Ken & the W brand frequented NAMM, PRS himself introduced Ken as the only person left in the music manufacturing business that is making any money. 

Just to say that the price isn't worth it isn't in an of itself a viable statement in my opinion.  It took cost to get the product to market, and more often than not, the profit made is not exorbitant. 

 

[Hendrix]

https://reverb.com/news/guitaronomics-how-much-does-it-actually-cost-to-build-a-guitar

Let’s say I buy $200 T-Styles out of Indonesia ... It’s going to have a manufacturer’s suggested price of at least four to five times that.”

The High Cost of Upgrading Components

“We have this debate often. We build our own version of an ES-335 and put our Chinese-made version of [boutique brand pickup] in there. If I’m street pricing that guitar for $500, that means I have to sell it to the dealer for $320, so there’s enough profit in it for them. I need to be making it for $150 – certainly under $200 – to make it profitable for me,” he says.

 

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

Exactly,  they're each not making "hundreds" per guitar, and if they are, it's not pure profit.

Profit isn't the markup alone, it's what is left after all of the bills are paid, which is often chump change.

Kind of like the music business where everyone gets paid but the musician.

 

[TBurst Std]

Been there, done that, made the money.

Wishful thinking is always disappointing, but people still engage in it as if it works. "Wow! This guy will do a job for almost nothing that everybody else says is going to cost a lot! I much prefer almost nothing! I'm gonna go that way! What could possibly go wrong?

I once won a job by saying I had no idea what it was going to cost. They had already gone with the "almost nothing" bid, and were so far from where they wanted to be they were actually behind where they started.

LOL Been there, quoted that work LOL